From: dwalsh@redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh)
To: refpolicy@oss.tresys.com
Subject: [refpolicy] dual mailing list (was Question: and the policy grows...)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:40:39 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D83A727.4050903@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1300468448.14419.9.camel@tesla.lan>
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On 03/18/2011 01:14 PM, Guido Trentalancia wrote:
> Hello again Christopher !
>
> On Fri, 18/03/2011 at 09.45 -0400, Christopher J. PeBenito wrote:
>> On 03/17/11 15:40, Guido Trentalancia wrote:
>>> On Thu, 17/03/2011 at 12.44 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>>>> On 03/17/2011 12:04 PM, Guido Trentalancia wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 17/03/2011 at 10.25 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>>
>>>> I think getting people to go in and examine the policy and ask
>>>> questions, why do we have these rules would be helpful. Maybe we setup
>>>> test days, or something to remove bogus policy.
>>>
>>> There is at least the limit of not having many people on this list
>>> compared to most other Linux projects. Perhaps security is considered
>>> something boring to the average user/developer. Or even more likely
>>> SELinux is still perceived as "difficult to get into" (a documentation
>>> issue).
>>
>> I think theres two things.
>>
>> 1. People don't actually care about security, especially if it
>> complicates/hinders what they're trying to do. Most people seek
>> security measures as a reaction to a security breach.
>> 2. Of the people that have some interest, SELinux is typically seen as
>> too difficult. We've been working on improving this for years.
>
> I have an idea.
>
> Things will probably improve considerably if you manage to set up two
> separate mailing lists: one for the end-users and one for the
> developers. This mailing list will coincide with the latter.
>
> This is common practice in open source software. The cost is minimal
> (reconfiguration of an existing mailing list server and update of a few
> existing web pages and documents).
>
> Most of the time users are facing common issues and could help each
> other. Archived message would make a knowledge base. Developers could
> voluntarily spare some time on the end-user mailing list and at the same
> time could benefit from important feedback that is not an explicit bug
> report.
>
> Of course the same could be done for SELinux with similar benefits and
> cost.
>
> Regards,
>
> Guido
>
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There is a fairly active list for SELinux users although distribution
specific
selinux at lists.fedoraproject.org
I also monitor most other Fedora users lists for mention of SELinux.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-18 18:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-17 13:50 [refpolicy] Question: and the policy grows Guido Trentalancia
2011-03-17 14:25 ` Daniel J Walsh
2011-03-17 16:04 ` Guido Trentalancia
2011-03-17 16:44 ` Daniel J Walsh
2011-03-17 17:54 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2011-03-17 18:34 ` Daniel J Walsh
2011-03-17 19:49 ` Daniel J Walsh
2011-03-18 13:30 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2011-03-17 20:15 ` Guido Trentalancia
2011-03-18 13:35 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2011-03-18 15:25 ` Guido Trentalancia
2011-03-17 19:40 ` Guido Trentalancia
2011-03-17 19:55 ` Daniel J Walsh
2011-03-17 20:27 ` Guido Trentalancia
2011-03-18 13:38 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2011-03-17 20:24 ` Sven Vermeulen
2011-03-17 21:08 ` Guido Trentalancia
2011-03-17 21:34 ` Sven Vermeulen
2011-03-17 23:04 ` Guido Trentalancia
2011-03-18 13:52 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2011-03-18 15:20 ` Guido Trentalancia
2011-03-17 23:08 ` Mark Montague
2011-03-18 6:06 ` Sven Vermeulen
2011-03-18 10:19 ` Dominick Grift
2011-03-18 12:31 ` Guido Trentalancia
2011-03-17 22:56 ` Mark Montague
2011-03-18 10:12 ` Dominick Grift
2011-03-18 13:37 ` Stephen Smalley
2011-03-18 15:37 ` Dominick Grift
2011-03-17 23:24 ` SE Linux use - was: " Russell Coker
2011-03-18 0:33 ` Guido Trentalancia
2011-03-18 2:11 ` Jason Axelson
2011-03-18 13:23 ` James Carter
2011-03-18 14:33 ` Russell Coker
2011-03-18 14:57 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2011-03-18 15:48 ` Guido Trentalancia
2011-03-18 23:40 ` Russell Coker
2011-03-18 15:45 ` Guido Trentalancia
2011-03-18 23:52 ` Russell Coker
2011-03-19 14:37 ` Guido Trentalancia
2011-03-18 14:08 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2011-03-18 13:45 ` [refpolicy] " Christopher J. PeBenito
2011-03-18 15:09 ` Guido Trentalancia
2011-03-18 17:14 ` [refpolicy] dual mailing list (was Question: and the policy grows...) Guido Trentalancia
2011-03-18 18:40 ` Daniel J Walsh [this message]
2011-03-18 19:13 ` Guido Trentalancia
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