From: Digimer <linux@alteeve.com>
To: cluster-devel.redhat.com
Subject: [Cluster-devel] RFC: generic improvement to fence agents api
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 14:44:11 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D84F97B.6070101@alteeve.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D84E898.1090704@redhat.com>
On 03/19/2011 01:32 PM, Fabio M. Di Nitto wrote:
> On 3/19/2011 6:14 PM, Digimer wrote:
>> On 03/19/2011 02:34 AM, Fabio M. Di Nitto wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> while discussing on linux-cluster the support of the Tripp Lite switched
>>> PDU, it occurred to me that we can effectively improve (almost half) the
>>> time it takes to perform power fencing of certain devices, when for
>>> example, more than one PSU needs to be powered off to complete the action.
>>>
>>> Node X has 2 PSU.
>>>
>>> In our current state, the config would look like:
>>>
>>> <clusternode .....>
>>> <fence>
>>> <method...>
>>> <device name="..." port="1"/>
>>> <device name="..." port="2"/>
>>> .....
>>>
>>> it means effectively spawning, most likely the same agent, twice.
>>> Increasing the time it takes to fence and maybe increasing the
>>> possibility to fail to fence if the second connection fails.
>>>
>>> My suggestion would be to allow to specify a list of ports instead.
>>>
>>> <clusternode .....>
>>> <fence>
>>> <method...>
>>> <device name="..." ports="1 2"/>
>>> ....
>>>
>>> Either by using a new keyword "ports" or re-using "port" itself. If
>>> using "port", current configuration will continue to work as-is and the
>>> change effectively would not introduce any backward compatibility issue.
>>>
>>> This way the agent can:
>>>
>>> 1) connect once (reducing in most cases the ssh/telnet/whatever time)
>>> 2) issue the OFF command as fast as possible (almost in parallel)
>>> 3) then wait for the results.
>>>
>>> By adopting a list, the configuration would look cleaner too IMHO.
>>>
>>> A quick glance, the change should not affect fenced (David can you
>>> confirm please?), and most agents could handle it via the fencing python
>>> lib (Marek?).
>>>
>>> Does it sound reasonable?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Fabio
>>
>> I like this idea, but would like to suggest:
>>
>> * Keep 'port' for a single port, as it is, and add 'ports' for multiple
>> port definitions.
>> * When using ports, I'd recommend comma-separated values and
>> dash-separated ranges (ie: ports="1,2", ports="1-4", ports="1,3-5") and
>> combinations there-of. This strikes me as more "standard" and possibly
>> less prone to typos.
>>
>
> The only thing I have against "," or "-" is that they might be easily
> part of a port name already.
>
> Range doesn?t make sense to me and it?s complex to interpret/implement.
> How many machines have you seen around with so many PSU?s anyway that
> need a range to avoid headache? (leaving aside E10K or s390 ;)).
>
> Fabio
Lol, I've seen up to four in n-1 setups, but you are right, it's not
common enough to justify increasing complexity, so simple
space-separated numbers is fine. I still argue for the "port" vs.
"ports" though. :)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-19 18:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-19 6:34 [Cluster-devel] RFC: generic improvement to fence agents api Fabio M. Di Nitto
2011-03-19 17:14 ` Digimer
2011-03-19 17:32 ` Fabio M. Di Nitto
2011-03-19 18:44 ` Digimer [this message]
2011-03-21 8:40 ` Marek Grac
2011-03-21 10:44 ` Fabio M. Di Nitto
2011-03-21 17:07 ` David Teigland
2011-03-21 17:09 ` Digimer
2011-03-21 17:16 ` Fabio M. Di Nitto
2011-03-21 17:37 ` Lon Hohberger
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