From: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@maxwell.research.nokia.com>
To: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
Cc: "Michael Jones" <michael.jones@matrix-vision.de>,
"Laurent Pinchart" <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
"Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
"Loïc Akue" <akue.loic@gmail.com>,
"Yordan Kamenov" <ykamenov@mm-sol.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] omap3isp: implement ENUM_FMT
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:13:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D8AFD20.4000705@maxwell.research.nokia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201103240842.43024.hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
Hans Verkuil wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2011 08:28:31 Michael Jones wrote:
>> Hi Laurent,
>>
>> On 03/23/2011 01:16 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> Is there a policy decision that in the future, apps will be required to
>>>> use libv4l to get images from the ISP? Are we not intending to support
>>>> using e.g. media-ctl + some v4l2 app, as I'm currently doing during
>>>> development?
>>>
>>> Apps should be able to use the V4L2 API directly. However, we can't implement
>>> all that API, as most calls don't make sense for the OMA3 ISP driver. Which
>>> calls need to be implemented is a grey area at the moment, as there's no
>>> detailed semantics on how subdev-level configuration and video device
>>> configuration should interact.
>
> We definitely need to discuss this in the near future. It's indeed a grey
> area at the moment that needs to be clarified.
I fully agree.
>>> Your implementation of ENUM_FMT looks correct to me, but the question is
>>> whether ENUM_FMT should be implemented. I don't think ENUM_FMT is a required
>>> ioctl, so maybe v4l2src shouldn't depend on it. I'm interesting in getting
>>> Hans' opinion on this.
>>>
>>
>> I only implemented it after I saw that ENUM_FMT _was_ required by V4L2.
>> From http://v4l2spec.bytesex.org/spec/x1859.htm#AEN1894 :
>> "The VIDIOC_ENUM_FMT ioctl must be supported by all drivers exchanging
>> image data with applications."
>
> If you can call S_FMT on a device node, then you also have to implement
> ENUM_FMT.
I think the issue here is that it's not possible (or feasible) to
implement ENUM_FMT in a way applications would obtain the information
they're interested in. Available pixel formats are dictated by the
formats on links (validation must be done first in a generic case!) and
in the case of OMAP 3 ISP there's always just one.
S_FMT and TRY_FMT behave more or less the way applications like. The
pixelformat or size may not change, though, and this information is also
used to prepare the buffers.
> I am assuming applications need to call S_FMT for omap3 video nodes, right?
> Because that defines the result of the DMA engine. Or is the result always
> fixed, based on the current pipeline configuration? In the latter case I
> would still expect to see an ENUM_FMT, but one that just returns the current
> format. And S/TRY_FMT would also return the current format.
There are some options in the format that is not defined by the
v4l2_mbus_pixelcode already. Padding is such and I don't think there
should be anything else than that since the v4l2_mbus_pixelcode
conversion and scaling takes places in the subdevs. Laurent? :-)
Cheers,
--
Sakari Ailus
sakari.ailus@maxwell.research.nokia.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-24 8:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-22 12:56 [PATCH] omap3isp: implement ENUM_FMT Michael Jones
2011-03-23 9:52 ` Sakari Ailus
2011-03-23 11:07 ` Michael Jones
2011-03-23 12:16 ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-03-24 7:28 ` Michael Jones
2011-03-24 7:42 ` Hans Verkuil
2011-03-24 8:13 ` Sakari Ailus [this message]
2011-03-24 10:36 ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-03-25 10:16 ` Michael Jones
2011-03-24 8:04 ` Sakari Ailus
2011-03-25 10:11 ` Michael Jones
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