From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
tim.c.chen@intel.com, shaohua.li@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: recover sched_yield task running time increase
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 10:42:41 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D9C7BE1.6010502@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1302077064.2225.1357.camel@twins>
On 04/06/2011 04:04 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 06:33 +0800, Alex Shi wrote:
>> commit ac53db596cc08ecb8040c removed the sched_yield task running
>> time increase, so the yielded task get more opportunity to be launch
>> again. That may not the caller want to be. And this also causes
>> volano benchmark drop 50~80 percent performance on core2/NHM/WSM
>> machines. This patch recover the sched_yield task vruntime up.
>
> You do know that any app that relies on sched_yield behaviour is more
> than broken? Using sched_yield() for anything other than SCHED_FIFO
> tasks is well outside spec.
>
> Furthermore, apparently you used sysctl_sched_compat_yield, which was
> bound to disappear some time, since with the default settings the yield
> semantics didn't actually change.
>
> So no, I'm not much inclined to accept this. The Java people have had
> every opportunity to go fix their crap, them not doing so will
> eventually (preferably now) stop being my problem.
It appears they might not have figured out how to fix
their stuff :)
Would you have any hints on what the Java folks should
replace their calls to sched_yield with?
Proper use of futexes from inside the JVM perhaps?
Or should we export yield_to to userspace and have
them use that? :) *runs*
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-06 14:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-05 22:33 [PATCH] sched: recover sched_yield task running time increase Alex Shi
2011-04-06 5:07 ` Rik van Riel
2011-04-06 6:15 ` Alex,Shi
2011-04-06 7:01 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-04-06 13:28 ` Shi, Alex
2011-04-07 2:44 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-04-06 8:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-06 14:42 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2011-04-06 15:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-07 3:08 ` Alex,Shi
2011-04-07 6:13 ` Rik van Riel
2011-04-07 6:43 ` Alex,Shi
2011-04-07 8:52 ` Ingo Molnar
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