From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Chris Perkins Subject: Re: Gitbox Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 23:28:06 -0300 Message-ID: <4DA65BB6.5080909@medialab.com> References: <4238CC86-13A5-4DB8-B8B2-BC3AA2F2DA5E@gmail.com> <4DA654D4.5040104@medialab.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Joshua Juran , Daniel Searles , "Randal L. Schwartz" , Drew Northup , oleganza@gmail.com, Junio C Hamano , git@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Searles To: Chris Perkins X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Thu Apr 14 04:28:18 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QACI5-0002Uy-E4 for gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 04:28:17 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757703Ab1DNC2M (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:28:12 -0400 Received: from smtp01.frii.com ([216.17.135.167]:59288 "EHLO smtp01.frii.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753398Ab1DNC2M (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:28:12 -0400 Received: from s-expression.local (unknown [190.195.43.191]) by smtp01.frii.com (FRII) with ESMTP id 5414BE8318; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:28:08 -0600 (MDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 In-Reply-To: <4DA654D4.5040104@medialab.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On 4/13/11 11:02 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Chris" == Chris Perkins writes: > > Chris> Is that a violation of the GPL? I would say that it absolutely > Chris> is. > > Which part, then? Name chapter and verse. Section 2 b). I quoted it in whole in my email: 2 b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License. and the last paragraph in the "how to" section is even more frank. > But if the GPL is to be treated as a legally enforceable document, "live > by the sword, and die by the sword". GPL-desk-pounders can't have it > both ways. I'm not a GPL-desk-pounder. I write commercial software for a living. But I take the efforts I put into my software very seriously. If I were to release software as free software under a license like the GPL I would not appreciate someone attempting to profit off my hard work by putting a bow on it and selling it as their own. Don't get me wrong. I don't see Gitbox as just a 'bow' atop Git. Frankly, the type of wrapping that Gitbox is doing seems perfectly reasonable to me. Gitbox is providing real value to users, it's not disguising or hiding Git and it's not pretending to be provide the work of Git as its own and it isn't trying to pretend to be anything that it isn't. However, that said, I still think it's a violation of the GPL. That license lays it out very clearly without much room for interpretation. You can't make commercial works based on GPL licensed software. Without Git there is no Gitbox. End of story. I'm not a lawyer, were I then perhaps I'd know solidly one way or other. I'm not the author nor one of the contributors to Git. Were I then perhaps I might feel differently about Gitbox being 'perfectly reasonable'. But I will add this, some on our team would very much like to incorporate Git into one of our own upcoming commercial products. Code-wise in the same manner as Gitbox has done. But we aren't going to do this, because the GPL license for Git clearly states that we cannot. Chris