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From: "Paul Monday (Parallel Scientific)" <paul.monday-HFKXkVZtcVHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Weiny, Ira K." <weiny2-i2BcT+NCU+M@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: opensm: file routing engine
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:37:11 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DB1E6F7.2030702@parsci.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA846D94-378A-4CCE-BFCD-10EF4B4B4FAE-i2BcT+NCU+M@public.gmane.org>

Thank you, your detail is greatly appreciated :)

>> I have one other strange question ... is it possible to carve a single
>> physical switch into two logical switches (put a cable between ports
>> 16/17 and modify the routing tables ... this seems like it wouldn't work
>> as the Unicast LID / Switch: guid rows in the respective files below
>> serve as keys so the single switch would be identified twice).
> Not that I am aware of.  When you say you have a single switch I assume you mean a switch based on a single switch ASIC?  Like a 24 or 36 port "pizza box" switch.
Yes, a 36 port Mellanox pizza box with a single crossbar ... based on 
how I read these files, it looks like they key off a single GUID that 
identifies the switch ... which would probably make the subnet manager 
unhappy if I arbitrarily tried to mock it up being two switches somehow
> The file formats seem to be:
>
> opensm-lfts.dump (later becomes -U [file])
> - Contains all discovered ports (powered on), their function (Switch vs.
> Channel Adapter), their LID and some extra information.  This is
> essentially the physical network (if all machines are powered on) ...
> the format is:
> Unicast lids [0-x] of switch Lid LID# guid<GUID>  ('switch description'):
> <LID 0xZZZZ>  <SwitchPort ZZZ>  #<Channel Adapter | Switch>  portguid
> <GUID>: 'Descirption'
>
> I assume this file grows with all of the Channel Adapters and switches.
> Given a switch-switch connection a row would look like
> 0x0019 005 # Switch portguid 0x000000000000003 'MF3:switch-my:MTS3600/U1'
> Yes this file grows with more nodes in the system.  But the line above is not a connection but rather a linear forwarding table entry.  In general, this is saying that for the given lid "0x0019" route out port 5 of that switch (the switch given by the "Unicast lids [..." line.  The information after '#' is more information about the node with lid=0x0019. This is _not_ the other end of the link on port 5.
Ahhh, I see ... so this table could get quite large ... if I have 1,000 
nodes in a subnet, each with a LID assigned, this table would become 
quite large as each LID would be listed for each switch if I have my 
forwarding thoughts in my head ... maybe I need to wander around and 
steal another switch from someone ;-)
> The topology of the physical connections are shown in opensm-subnet.lst.
Ahhh, but the opensm-subnet.lst is not handed to the file routing 
algorithm ... this must be "derived" at runtime each run I'm guessing 
and then dumped to /var/log.  Very helpful!  Thank you for the pointer.
>> You could essentially use this file to map the entire physical network,
>> you would end up with a graph ... but no information for how to traverse
>> it efficiently, does that sound right?
> No this is not mapping the physical network.  It is a dump of the port forwarding which was programed into each switch by opensm.
>
> Changing this file is what allows you to change the routing and then feed it back into opensm.
>
>> opensm-lid-matrix.dump
>> - Looks like it contains the hop information ... but it's a bit more
>> cryptic since I have only one switch :(  It should contain a list of all
>> switches, the LID for the switch and then hop information.  The hop
>> information is what I'm a bit puzzled about here, as well as what port
>> guid information is tacked on.  The format of the file is:
>> Switch: guid 0x000000000000x
>> <LID 0xZZZZ>  00 ff ff<hops for all ports>  # portguid 0x0000000
> That is the switch to switch hop count information. Probably not of much use with only 1 switch.
Ugh ... I need another switch or .dump files from someone ... I haven't 
found any stray .dump files out on the network, but then, Google knows 
all and someone must have posted a couple somewhere to play with.

Thank you so much again Ira, I wasn't too far off and mostly it seems 
I'm off in places that having only a single switch wouldn't let me see.  
The semantic correction of opensm-lfts.dump was critical.

Cheers, have a wonderful weekend.

Paul Monday
Parallel Scientific, LLC

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-22 20:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-22 14:41 opensm: file routing engine Paul Monday (Parallel Scientific)
     [not found] ` <4DB19397.7090005-HFKXkVZtcVHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-22 19:39   ` Weiny, Ira K.
     [not found]     ` <CA846D94-378A-4CCE-BFCD-10EF4B4B4FAE-i2BcT+NCU+M@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-22 20:37       ` Paul Monday (Parallel Scientific) [this message]
     [not found]         ` <4DB1E6F7.2030702-HFKXkVZtcVHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-25 16:28           ` Weiny, Ira K.

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