From: Mark Hatle <mark.hatle@windriver.com>
To: <poky@yoctoproject.org>
Subject: Re: RPM vs IPK
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:17:10 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DD52666.6050003@windriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DD5239A.30404@mlbassoc.com>
On 5/19/11 9:05 AM, Gary Thomas wrote:
> Building Poky for various targets, I see some striking differences
> based on the packaging. I'm building for the beagleboard (RPM)
> and my own OMAP/3530 (IPK), so everything is the same for these
> packages (same compiler, architecture, etc), only the package
> method differs. This was built on an otherwise idle box
> 4-way (Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz), with
> BB_NUMBER_THREADS ?= "4"
> PARALLEL_MAKE ?= "-j 4"
>
> Each of these tests are a complete build of the package, with
> all dependencies already built. For example, I use this sequence:
> % bitbake perl
> % bitbake perl -c clean
> % rm sstate-cache/sstate-perl-arm*
> % time bitbake perl
>
> perl - RPM IPK
> real 12m15.520s real 9m43.228s
> user 5m42.988s user 4m40.692s
> sys 3m56.636s sys 2m19.860s
>
> eglibc RPM IPK
> real 32m19.984s real 23m52.124s
> user 15m32.732s user 20m48.214s
> sys 17m28.087s sys 9m3.936s
>
> Bottom line - it seems to take 20-30% longer to package via RPM.
>
> I know there are reasons and tradeoffs for different packaging
> methods, but 30% extra?
>
This matches my expectations for the most part. RPM creates and processes a lot
more metadata then IPK. IPK is well optimized for small systems, and certainly
I would advise someone generating a small system to use IPK.
For medium and (especially) large systems, RPM starts to give more abilities
that IPK due to the additional meta data. This includes individual file type
information, file checksum generation and evaluation on install, sparse file
support, conflict detection and resolution [for multilib systems], ACID style
upgrade, repackaging abilities for rollback, etc.. (Some of the items for RPM
are not yet enabled in oe-core, but could be by individual developers.)
(I also wouldn't be surprised if we've got integration optimizations in the RPM
backend in oe-core that could help with those numbers. The numbers seem to be
much worse on packages with large numbers of files, vs the typical package with
only a few to a hundred or so files.)
Downside of RPM for small systems is the Berkley DB and the amount of meta data.
If you will be doing on-device upgrades the space required to handle the
berkley DB and related items is quite large.. Also many of the advanced
features available in RPM simple are not needed in small systems.
--Mark
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-19 14:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-19 14:05 RPM vs IPK Gary Thomas
2011-05-19 14:17 ` Mark Hatle [this message]
2011-05-19 14:26 ` Gary Thomas
2011-05-19 15:28 ` Stewart, David C
2011-05-19 15:40 ` Gary Thomas
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-03-21 1:58 Gary Thomas
2011-03-21 11:57 ` Richard Purdie
2011-03-21 14:02 ` Gary Thomas
2011-03-21 14:42 ` Richard Purdie
2011-03-21 16:33 ` Mark Hatle
2011-03-22 0:20 ` Khem Raj
2010-10-29 21:33 Gary Thomas
2010-10-29 21:39 ` Gary Thomas
2010-10-30 6:17 ` Richard Purdie
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