From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Marco Chiappero Subject: Re: [PATCH 19/25] sony-laptop: add touchpad enable/disable control file Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 03:54:22 +0200 Message-ID: <4DE9904E.7050805@absence.it> References: <4DE8FC4A.9010401@absence.it> <201106031400.36141.dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> <4DE9563F.9010503@absence.it> <201106031512.38349.dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from aa013-1msr.fastwebnet.it ([62.101.93.133]:43909 "EHLO aa013-1msr.fastwebnet.it" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752308Ab1FDBy3 (ORCPT ); Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:54:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <201106031512.38349.dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> Sender: platform-driver-x86-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: To: Dmitry Torokhov Cc: Matthew Garrett , platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org, Mattia Dongili Il 04/06/2011 00:12, Dmitry Torokhov ha scritto: > The quirk is that for given device there is a sysfs attribute somewhere > that one can write something into to turn the touchpad off. Once again, let's have a single unified interface. Are you saying that the GNU world is not able to do that? >> This is false, especially for (so many) people using Windows too, where >> the feature is clearly visible by the OEM software. > > Thankfully OEM software either does not exist or is not widespread on > Linux. But the point is not to clone the OEM software (but we need to do it when there is nothing else), we do want to clone the functionality only, people just want to make that (well, every) hardware feature available under linux. Saying that X offers a workaround is, IMHO, a fail. Once again: the feature is known, OEM software has nothing to do with it. > No, I indeed can not speak for everybody, but it is my belief that this > feature in the form it is implemented will not be widely used. That's your belief... sorry, but after paying 1300 Eur for a laptop I don't care about your belief, I'd like to see my laptop fully supported, since we can do it. > No, it's like saying railroad tracks should be unified instead of every > country inventing their own size. We all know how helpful it was. No, at all, that is what I was saying. Again, let's create a common interface. >> It's a common and widespread feature, let's support it better instead of >> just removing it. > > What is the feature again? What do users really want to do here? Have their touchpad disabled, and have it disabled when using either windows or linux. That's what the user payed for. Discussing what the user should be interested in, whether a real power saving is achievable or not, is a totally wrong starting point, it's not your own business.