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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>
To: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Cc: Devin Heitmueller <dheitmueller@kernellabs.com>,
	Andy Walls <awalls@md.metrocast.net>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>, Jesper Juhl <jj@chaosbits.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	trivial@kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, Sage Weil <sage@newdream.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Don't use linux/version.h anymore to indicate a per-driver version - Was: Re: [PATCH 03/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from include/
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:02:41 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E051791.9010800@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110625003911.5c14a95e@stein>

Em 24-06-2011 19:39, Stefan Richter escreveu:
> On Jun 24 Devin Heitmueller wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Stefan Richter
>> <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de> wrote:
>>> Easier:
>>>  "I run Ubuntu 10.4".
>>>  "I run kernel 2.6.32."
>>> One of these is usually already included in the first post or IRC message
>>> from the user.
>>>
>>> Separate driver versions are only needed on platforms where drivers are
>>> not distributed by the operating system distributor, or driver source code
>>> is not released within kernel source code.
>>
>> Unfortunately, this doesn't work as all too often the user has "Ubuntu
>> 10.1 but I installed the latest media_build tree a few months ago".
>> Hence they are not necessarily on a particular binary release from a
>> distro but rather have a mix of a distro's binary release and a
>> v4l-dvb tree compiled from source.
> 
> If you release out-of-kernel-source driver sources for compilation against
> binary kernels, and you have got users who go through this procedure, then
> the user can for sure tell you the SCM version of the driver.

Yes, and this is currently provided. The dmesg will show the last 3 git commits.
A developer can just use git diff or git log to discover what changed since those
commits.

> Besides, isn't this outdated practice in times where Joe Enduser can get
> the very latest -rc kernel prepackaged on many distributions, including
> ones like Ubuntu?

Perhaps, but the cost to maintain the out-of-tree driver git tree is cheap. We provide
just a small building system, with a script that downloads a daily tarball
with just drivers/media and the corresponding includes (and a few drivers/staging).
The building system has a couple patches to allow backport compilation since 2.6.32.

Mauro.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-24 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-23 21:51 [PATCH 00/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes (and add where needed) Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 21:54 ` [PATCH 01/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from sound/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-24  9:29   ` Takashi Iwai
2011-06-24  9:29     ` Takashi Iwai
2011-06-23 21:56 ` [PATCH 02/37] Remove unneeded version.h include from lib/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 21:58 ` [PATCH 03/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from include/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:15   ` Sage Weil
2011-06-24 11:21   ` [RFC] Don't use linux/version.h anymore to indicate a per-driver version - Was: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-24 11:26     ` Hans Verkuil
2011-06-24 12:20       ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-06-24 12:20         ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-06-24 13:29         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-24 13:45           ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-06-24 13:45             ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-06-24 13:54             ` Hans Verkuil
2011-06-24 14:37               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-24 18:25                 ` [PATCH] [media] Stop using linux/version.h on most drivers Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-25 10:09                   ` Hans Verkuil
2011-06-25 12:14                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-25 12:14                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-27  0:59                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-06-24 18:34                 ` [RFC] Don't use linux/version.h anymore to indicate a per-driver version - Was: Re: [PATCH 03/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from include/ Stefan Richter
2011-06-24 18:48                   ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-06-24 18:48                     ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-06-24 21:04                     ` Andy Walls
2011-06-24 21:20                       ` Stefan Richter
2011-06-24 21:22                         ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-06-24 21:22                           ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-06-24 21:49                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-24 22:39                           ` Stefan Richter
2011-06-24 22:39                             ` Stefan Richter
2011-06-24 23:02                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2011-06-24 22:16                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-24 22:57                         ` Andy Walls
2011-06-24 21:10                     ` Stefan Richter
2011-06-24 21:10                       ` Stefan Richter
2011-06-24 21:52                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-24 21:52                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-24 21:44                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-29 21:54         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-06-23 21:59 ` [PATCH 04/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from fs/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 21:59   ` Jesper Juhl
2011-06-24 13:26   ` Bob Copeland
2011-06-24 13:26     ` Bob Copeland
2011-06-23 22:00 ` [PATCH 05/37] Remove unneeded version.h include from arch/x86/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:07 ` [PATCH 06/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from arch/mips/ Jesper Juhl
2011-08-02 10:22   ` Ralf Baechle
2011-06-23 22:08 ` [PATCH 07/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from arch/arm/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:08   ` Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 23:01   ` Jiandong Zheng
2011-06-23 23:01     ` Jiandong Zheng
2011-06-23 23:02   ` JD (Jiandong) Zheng
2011-06-23 23:02     ` JD (Jiandong) Zheng
2011-06-23 22:09 ` [Drbd-dev] [PATCH 08/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from drivers/block/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:09   ` Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:10 ` [PATCH 09/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from drivers/input/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:10   ` Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:50   ` Mike Frysinger
2011-06-23 22:50     ` Mike Frysinger
2011-06-27  7:10   ` Hennerich, Michael
2011-06-27 19:00   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-06-27 19:00     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-06-23 22:11 ` [PATCH 10/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from drivers/media/dvb/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:14 ` [PATCH 11/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes (and add where needed) for drivers/media/radio/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:17 ` [PATCH 12/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes (and add where needed) for drivers/media/video/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-24  8:52   ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-06-23 22:21 ` [PATCH 13/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from drivers/net/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-24  9:40   ` David Miller
2011-06-24  9:40     ` David Miller
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2011-06-23 22:26   ` [PATCH 14/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from drivers/scsi/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:26     ` Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:30 ` [PATCH 15/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from drivers/target/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 16/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes (and add where needed) for drivers/usb/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-27  8:20   ` Felipe Balbi
2011-06-27  8:49     ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-06-23 22:32 ` [PATCH 17/37] Remove unneeded version.h include from drivers/uwb/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:35 ` [PATCH 18/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:35   ` [PATCH 18/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from drivers/video/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:51   ` Mike Frysinger
2011-06-23 22:51     ` Mike Frysinger
2011-06-24  8:17   ` Paul Mundt
2011-06-24  8:17     ` Paul Mundt
2011-06-23 22:40 ` [PATCH 19/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from drivers/staging/rtl*/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 23:57   ` Larry Finger
2011-06-23 22:41 ` [PATCH 20/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from drivers/staging/gma500/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 23:17   ` Alan Cox
2011-07-07 10:42   ` Alan Cox
2011-06-23 22:42 ` [PATCH 21/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from drivers/staging/ath6kl/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:43 ` [PATCH 22/37] Remove unneeded version.h include from drivers/staging/bcm/headers.h Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:44 ` [PATCH 23/37] Remove unneeded version.h include from drivers/staging/cxd2099/cxd2099.c Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:47 ` [PATCH 24/37] Remove unneeded version.h include from drivers/staging/cxt1e1/sbecom_inline_linux.h Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:51 ` [PATCH 25/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes (and add where needed) for drivers/staging/easycap/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:52 ` [PATCH 26/37] Remove unneeded version.h include from drivers/staging/hv/hv_timesource.c Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:53 ` [PATCH 27/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from drivers/staging/lirc/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:54 ` [PATCH 28/37] Remove unneeded version.h include from drivers/staging/mei/main.c Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 22:56 ` [PATCH 29/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from drivers/staging/msm/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-24  1:47   ` David Brown
2011-06-23 22:58 ` [PATCH 30/37] Remove unneeded version.h include from drivers/staging/panel/panel.c Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 23:00 ` [PATCH 31/37] Remove unneeded version.h include from drivers/staging/rts_pstor/rtsx.h Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 23:01 ` [PATCH 32/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from drivers/staging/speakup/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 23:02 ` [PATCH 33/37] Remove unneeded version.h include from drivers/staging/tidspbridge/include/dspbridge/host_os.h Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 23:04 ` [PATCH 34/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes (and add where needed) for drivers/tm6000/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 23:05 ` [PATCH 35/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from drivers/staging/wlags49_h2/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 23:06 ` [PATCH 36/37] Remove unneeded version.h include from drivers/staging/wlan-ng/prism2sta.c Jesper Juhl
2011-06-23 23:08 ` [PATCH 37/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes from drivers/staging/xgifb/ Jesper Juhl
2011-06-24  9:13 ` [PATCH 00/37] Remove unneeded version.h includes (and add where needed) Jiri Kosina
2011-06-24 10:48   ` Jesper Juhl

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