From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Rick Jones Subject: Re: NAT66 : A first implementation Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:37:39 -0700 Message-ID: <4E1F7DC3.5000407@hp.com> References: <4E1F1902.9020605@student.ulg.ac.be> <20110714.161717.1387261665409519132.davem@davemloft.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jengelh@medozas.de, T.Moes@student.ulg.ac.be, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org To: David Miller Return-path: Received: from g6t0184.atlanta.hp.com ([15.193.32.61]:27030 "EHLO g6t0184.atlanta.hp.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932590Ab1GNXhm (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:37:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20110714.161717.1387261665409519132.davem@davemloft.net> Sender: netfilter-devel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On 07/14/2011 04:17 PM, David Miller wrote: > From: Jan Engelhardt > Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 01:15:47 +0200 (CEST) > >> Of course yours is feature-richer. But the topic of IPv6 NAT has had >> come up a number of unrecollectable times, and the response has been the >> same everytime - NAT is still an ugly undesired hack whose recurrence >> wants to be avoided. > > You can't avoid it. > > People want to hide the details of the topology of their > internal networks, therefore we will have NAT with ipv6 > no matter what we think or feel. > > Everyone needs to stop being in denial, now. So, does that imply there will be systems with only link-scope IP's reaching-out to global-scope IPs, getting their link-scope's adjusted by an IPv6 NAT? rick jones