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From: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jpirko@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pktgen: Clone skb to avoid corruption of skbs in ndo_start_xmit methods
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:52:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E2626E1.6030005@candelatech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1311122593.3113.46.camel@edumazet-laptop>

On 07/19/2011 05:43 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Le mardi 19 juillet 2011 à 20:19 -0400, Neil Horman a écrit :

>> I'm sensitive to the performance impact, but I would much rather see a lower
>> performing pktgen that doesn't randomly crash, and bring the performance back up
>> in a safe, reliable way.  To that end, I've been starting to think about
>> pre-allocating a ring buffer of skbs with a skb->users count biased up to
>> prevent driver freeing.  That way we could detect 'unused skb's' by a user count
>> that was at the bias level.  Thoughts?
>>
>
> I dont know. I use pktgen maybe once per week and never got a single
> crash like this. We probably are very few pktgen users in the world, and
> we use it exactly to avoid calling skb_clone() or other expensive per
> xmit setup.
>
> Just remove pktgen from RedHat kernels, if you dont trust sysadmins.
> # CONFIG_PKTGEN is not set
>
> Alternatively, add a check to problematic drivers to _not_ mess skb if
> skb_shared(skb) is true : eventually use skb_share_check()

When the features-flags work gets completed so that we can start adding
new flags, we could add a CANT_DO_MULTI_SKB flag to drivers with known
issues and then restrict pktgen config accordingly.

Upstream code already clears skb memory to avoid leaking kernel memory
contents, so if you take away multi-skb too, pktgen is going to suck
at what it is supposed to do:  run fast as possible.

If you want real fun, use pktgen on a wlan0 device...it will crash
regardless of whether you use multi-skb or not because of xmit-queue
number issues :P

Thanks,
Ben

-- 
Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Candela Technologies Inc  http://www.candelatech.com

  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-20  0:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-19 19:52 [PATCH] pktgen: Clone skb to avoid corruption of skbs in ndo_start_xmit methods Neil Horman
2011-07-19 20:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-19 20:17   ` Joe Perches
2011-07-19 20:29   ` Jiri Pirko
2011-07-19 20:41     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-19 21:01       ` Ben Greear
2011-07-20  0:19       ` Neil Horman
2011-07-20  0:25         ` Rick Jones
2011-07-20 15:23           ` Loke, Chetan
2011-07-20  0:43         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-20  0:52           ` Ben Greear [this message]
2011-07-20  2:07             ` Neil Horman
2011-07-20  4:19               ` Ben Greear
2011-07-20  4:24               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-20 15:17                 ` Loke, Chetan
2011-07-20 15:18                 ` Neil Horman
2011-07-20 15:30                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-20 15:39                     ` Neil Horman
2011-07-20 15:44                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-20 16:19                         ` Neil Horman
2011-07-20 15:35                   ` Michał Mirosław
2011-07-20 15:40                     ` Neil Horman
2011-07-20 16:08                       ` Michał Mirosław
2011-07-20 16:18                         ` Neil Horman
2011-07-20 16:37                     ` Ben Greear
2011-07-20 16:33                   ` Ben Greear
2011-07-20 16:36                     ` Neil Horman
2011-07-21 22:01                   ` David Miller
2011-07-21 22:14                     ` Ben Greear
2011-07-21 22:19                       ` David Miller
2011-07-21 22:26                         ` Ben Greear
2011-07-21 23:50                         ` Neil Horman
2011-07-22  0:08                           ` David Miller
2011-07-22  1:37                             ` Neil Horman
2011-07-20  1:59           ` Neil Horman
2011-07-25 19:45 ` [PATCH 0/2] pktgen: Clone skb to avoid corruption of skbs in ndo_start_xmit methods (v2) Neil Horman
2011-07-25 19:45   ` [PATCH 1/2] net: add IFF_SKB_TX_SHARED flag to priv_flags Neil Horman
2011-07-25 20:11     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-26 14:54       ` Neil Horman
2011-07-25 19:45   ` [PATCH 2/2] net: Audit drivers to identify those needing IFF_TX_SKB_SHARING cleared Neil Horman
2011-07-26 18:34     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2011-07-26 16:05 ` [PATCH 0/2] pktgen: Clone skb to avoid corruption of skbs in ndo_start_xmit methods (v3) Neil Horman
2011-07-26 16:05   ` [PATCH 1/2] net: add IFF_SKB_TX_SHARED flag to priv_flags Neil Horman
2011-07-28  5:42     ` David Miller
2011-07-28  8:15     ` Robert Olsson
2011-07-28 10:50       ` Neil Horman
2011-07-26 16:05   ` [PATCH 2/2] net: Audit drivers to identify those needing IFF_TX_SKB_SHARING cleared Neil Horman
2011-07-28  5:42     ` David Miller
2011-07-29  6:16   ` [PATCH 0/2] pktgen: Clone skb to avoid corruption of skbs in ndo_start_xmit methods (v3) Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-07-29 11:19     ` Neil Horman
2011-08-17 15:07   ` Ben Hutchings
2011-08-22  0:27     ` Neil Horman
2011-08-22 16:17       ` Ben Hutchings
2011-08-22 17:33         ` Ben Hutchings
2011-08-22 18:14         ` Neil Horman
2011-08-23 14:01           ` Ben Hutchings
2011-08-23 15:13             ` Neil Horman
2011-08-23 15:53               ` Ben Hutchings
2011-08-23 16:21                 ` Neil Horman

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