From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Matt Helsley <matthltc-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>,
Cyrill Gorcunov
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Serge Hallyn <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] binfmt: Introduce the binfmt_img exec handler
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:17:48 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E2A83AC.6090504@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110722224617.GA16940-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
On 07/23/2011 02:46 AM, Matt Helsley wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 08:51:27AM +0200, Tejun Heo wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 05:48:09PM +0400, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
>>> When being execve-ed the handler reads registers, mappings and provided
>>> memory pages from image and just assigns this state on current task. This
>>> simple functionality can be used to restore a task, whose state whas read
>>> from e.g. /proc/<pid>/dump file before.
>>
>> Ummm... iff the process is single threaded. :(
Yup :( This is the weak side.
>> Much more complex machinery is needed to restore full process anyway
>> which would require some kernel facilities but definitely a lot more
>
> Agreed,
Well, let me describe why I chose the binfmt handler for restore.
The basic idea is very simple - you have to create a process with a defined
values in registers and defined set of memory mappings (with the memory
contents). This creation is obviously done by some (maybe another) process.
Thus we have two ways to go - either we transform the restoring task into
the target one or we freeze the target one and repopulate it "remotely".
The 1st approach seemed to be more elegant to me, and with this one we do
already have an API for turning one VM+regs into another - the execve.
If you can suggest another way - I'm open for discussion.
>> logic in userland. I really can't see much point in having
>
> I disagree (surprise! ;)).
>
>> dumper/restorer in kernel. The simplistic dumper/restorer proposed
>> here isn't really useful - among other things, it's single threaded
>> only and there's no mechanism to freeze the task being dumped. It is
>
> To be fair Pavel used signals to stop/resume the task. It's not
> a good solution but it's a start (more below).
>
>> almost trivially implementable from userland using existing
>> facilities. I wonder what the point is.
>
> No, I think that ultimately an addition to the cgroup freezer will
> be needed.
Sure it will be! I planned to use one in the next iterations and used
the sigstop just for simplicity.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-07-23 8:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-15 13:45 [RFC][PATCH 0/7 + tools] Checkpoint/restore mostly in the userspace Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4E204466.8010204-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-15 13:45 ` [PATCH 0/1] proc: Introduce the /proc/<pid>/mfd/ directory Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4E20448A.5010207-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-21 7:21 ` Tejun Heo
2011-07-15 13:46 ` [PATCH 2/7] vfs: Introduce the fd closing helper Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4E2044A7.4030103-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-21 15:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-07-15 13:46 ` [PATCH 3/7] proc: Introduce the Children: line in /proc/<pid>/status Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4E2044C3.7050506-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-21 6:54 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20110721065436.GT3455-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 8:06 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4E2A8116.1040309-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 8:41 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20110723084110.GG21089-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 8:45 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4E2A8A0E.5030208-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 8:50 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20110723085014.GI21089-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 8:51 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-07-21 15:54 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-07-15 13:47 ` [PATCH 4/7] vfs: Add ->statfs callback for pipefs Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4E2044D6.3060205-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-21 6:59 ` Tejun Heo
2011-07-21 15:59 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-07-15 13:47 ` [PATCH 5/7] clone: Introduce the CLONE_CHILD_USEPID functionality Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4E2044EB.20001-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-21 16:04 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20110721160459.GD19012-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-22 23:08 ` Matt Helsley
[not found] ` <20110722230848.GB16940-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 8:09 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-07-15 13:47 ` [PATCH 6/7] proc: Introduce the /proc/<pid>/dump file Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4E204500.6040800-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-16 22:57 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
[not found] ` <20110716225709.GA25606-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-17 8:06 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-07-21 6:44 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20110721064408.GR3455-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 8:11 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4E2A8239.5060908-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 8:37 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20110723083711.GF21089-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 8:49 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4E2A8B12.4010709-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 8:58 ` Tejun Heo
2011-07-15 13:48 ` [PATCH 7/7] binfmt: Introduce the binfmt_img exec handler Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4E204519.3040804-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-21 6:51 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20110721065127.GS3455-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-22 22:46 ` Matt Helsley
[not found] ` <20110722224617.GA16940-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 8:17 ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
[not found] ` <4E2A83AC.6090504-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 8:45 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20110723084529.GH21089-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 8:51 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4E2A8B7D.8010807-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 9:04 ` Tejun Heo
2011-07-15 13:49 ` [TOOLS] To make use of the patches Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4E204554.6040901-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-22 23:45 ` Matt Helsley
[not found] ` <20110722234558.GD16940-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 8:32 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4E2A8704.3030306-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-27 23:00 ` Matt Helsley
[not found] ` <20110727230003.GE15501-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-28 8:23 ` James Bottomley
2011-07-23 0:40 ` Reply #2: " Matt Helsley
[not found] ` <20110723004045.GC21563-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 8:33 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-07-15 15:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/7 + tools] Checkpoint/restore mostly in the userspace Tejun Heo
2011-07-18 13:27 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20110718132759.GB8127-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 8:43 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-07-23 0:25 ` Matt Helsley
[not found] ` <20110723002558.GE16940-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 3:29 ` Matt Helsley
[not found] ` <20110723032945.GD21563-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-23 4:58 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20110723045842.GD21089-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-26 18:11 ` Matt Helsley
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2011-07-26 22:45 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20110726224525.GC28497-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-26 23:07 ` Matt Helsley
2011-07-23 3:53 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <CAOS58YPqLSYi2xECUk4O5GG3s6aokT=VykmkL6UnAOzyHXNAgQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-26 22:59 ` Matt Helsley
[not found] ` <20110726225911.GF14808-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-26 23:46 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20110726234657.GD28497-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-27 0:53 ` Matt Helsley
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2011-07-27 10:12 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20110727101228.GY2622-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-27 22:26 ` Matt Helsley
2011-07-23 5:10 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20110723051005.GE21089-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-26 22:02 ` Matt Helsley
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2011-07-26 22:21 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20110726222109.GB28497-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-27 0:06 ` Matt Helsley
[not found] ` <20110727000651.GA15501-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-27 12:01 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20110727120114.GZ2622-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-27 21:35 ` Matt Helsley
[not found] ` <20110727213510.GC15501-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-28 7:21 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20110728072141.GB2622-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-28 7:23 ` Tejun Heo
2011-07-28 8:37 ` James Bottomley
2011-07-28 9:10 ` Tejun Heo
2011-07-23 8:39 ` Pavel Emelyanov
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