From: Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: moving fsfreeze support from the userland guest agent to the guest kernel
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:56:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E312454.90200@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110727183610.GC14736@lst.de>
On 07/27/11 20:36, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> Initiating the freeze from kernelspace doesn't make much sense. With
> virtio we could add in-band freeze request to the protocol, and although
> that would be a major change in that way virtio-blk works right now it's
> at least doable. But all other "real" storage targets only communicate
> with their initators over out of band procotols that are entirely handled
> in userspace, and given their high-level nature better are - that is if
> we know them at all given how vendors like to keep this secrete IP
> closed and just offer userspace management tools in binary form.
>
> building new infrastructure in the kernel just for virtio, while needing
> to duplicate the same thing in userspace for all real storage seems like
> a really bad idea. That is in addition to the userspace freeze notifier
> similar to what e.g. Windows has - if the freeze process is driven from
> userspace it's much easier to handle those properly compared to requiring
> kernel upcalls.
>
The freeze operation would really just be a case of walking the list of
mounted file systems and calling the FIFREEZE ioctl operation on them. I
wouldn't anticipate doing anything else in a virtio-fsfreeze.ko module.
Cheers,
Jes
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-07-28 8:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-27 15:24 [Qemu-devel] RFC: moving fsfreeze support from the userland guest agent to the guest kernel Andrea Arcangeli
2011-07-27 16:07 ` Michael Roth
2011-07-27 16:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-07-28 8:54 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-28 15:26 ` Michael Roth
2011-07-27 16:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-27 16:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-07-27 18:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-27 19:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-07-28 8:56 ` Jes Sorensen [this message]
2011-07-28 2:53 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2011-07-28 8:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-07-28 15:11 ` Michael Roth
2011-07-29 0:29 ` Fernando Luis Vazquez Cao
2011-08-07 18:28 ` Ronen Hod
2011-08-08 13:26 ` Luiz Capitulino
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