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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	XFS <xfs@oss.sgi.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in kswapd except in high priority
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:18:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E441D0E.6020602@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1312973240-32576-6-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>

On 08/10/2011 06:47 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> It is preferable that no dirty pages are dispatched for cleaning from
> the page reclaim path. At normal priorities, this patch prevents kswapd
> writing pages.
>
> However, page reclaim does have a requirement that pages be freed
> in a particular zone. If it is failing to make sufficient progress
> (reclaiming<  SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX at any priority priority), the priority
> is raised to scan more pages. A priority of DEF_PRIORITY - 3 is
> considered to be the point where kswapd is getting into trouble
> reclaiming pages. If this priority is reached, kswapd will dispatch
> pages for writing.
>
> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman<mgorman@suse.de>
> Reviewed-by: Minchan Kim<minchan.kim@gmail.com>

My only worry with this patch is that maybe we'll burn too
much CPU time freeing pages from a zone.  However, chances
are we'll have freed pages from other zones when scanning
one zone multiple times (the page cache dirty limit is global,
the clean pages have to be _somewhere_).

Since the bulk of the allocators are not too picky about
which zone they get their pages from, I suspect this patch
will be an overall improvement pretty much all the time.

Acked-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>

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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, XFS <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in kswapd except in high priority
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:18:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E441D0E.6020602@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1312973240-32576-6-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>

On 08/10/2011 06:47 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> It is preferable that no dirty pages are dispatched for cleaning from
> the page reclaim path. At normal priorities, this patch prevents kswapd
> writing pages.
>
> However, page reclaim does have a requirement that pages be freed
> in a particular zone. If it is failing to make sufficient progress
> (reclaiming<  SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX at any priority priority), the priority
> is raised to scan more pages. A priority of DEF_PRIORITY - 3 is
> considered to be the point where kswapd is getting into trouble
> reclaiming pages. If this priority is reached, kswapd will dispatch
> pages for writing.
>
> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman<mgorman@suse.de>
> Reviewed-by: Minchan Kim<minchan.kim@gmail.com>

My only worry with this patch is that maybe we'll burn too
much CPU time freeing pages from a zone.  However, chances
are we'll have freed pages from other zones when scanning
one zone multiple times (the page cache dirty limit is global,
the clean pages have to be _somewhere_).

Since the bulk of the allocators are not too picky about
which zone they get their pages from, I suspect this patch
will be an overall improvement pretty much all the time.

Acked-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>

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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, XFS <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in kswapd except in high priority
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:18:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E441D0E.6020602@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1312973240-32576-6-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>

On 08/10/2011 06:47 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> It is preferable that no dirty pages are dispatched for cleaning from
> the page reclaim path. At normal priorities, this patch prevents kswapd
> writing pages.
>
> However, page reclaim does have a requirement that pages be freed
> in a particular zone. If it is failing to make sufficient progress
> (reclaiming<  SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX at any priority priority), the priority
> is raised to scan more pages. A priority of DEF_PRIORITY - 3 is
> considered to be the point where kswapd is getting into trouble
> reclaiming pages. If this priority is reached, kswapd will dispatch
> pages for writing.
>
> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman<mgorman@suse.de>
> Reviewed-by: Minchan Kim<minchan.kim@gmail.com>

My only worry with this patch is that maybe we'll burn too
much CPU time freeing pages from a zone.  However, chances
are we'll have freed pages from other zones when scanning
one zone multiple times (the page cache dirty limit is global,
the clean pages have to be _somewhere_).

Since the bulk of the allocators are not too picky about
which zone they get their pages from, I suspect this patch
will be an overall improvement pretty much all the time.

Acked-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-08-11 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-10 10:47 [PATCH 0/7] Reduce filesystem writeback from page reclaim v3 Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47 ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47 ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47 ` [PATCH 1/7] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in direct reclaim Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 12:40   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-10 12:40     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-10 12:40     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-11  9:03   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:03     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:03     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11 15:57   ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 15:57     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 15:57     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-10 10:47 ` [PATCH 2/7] mm: vmscan: Remove dead code related to lumpy reclaim waiting on pages under writeback Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 12:41   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-10 12:41     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-10 12:41     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-10 23:19   ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-10 23:19     ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-10 23:19     ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-11  9:05   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:05     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:05     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11 16:52   ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 16:52     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 16:52     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-10 10:47 ` [PATCH 3/7] xfs: Warn if direct reclaim tries to writeback pages Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-11 16:53   ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 16:53     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 16:53     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-10 10:47 ` [PATCH 4/7] ext4: " Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-11 17:07   ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 17:07     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 17:07     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-10 10:47 ` [PATCH 5/7] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in kswapd except in high priority Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 12:44   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-10 12:44     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-10 12:44     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-11  9:10   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:10     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:10     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11 20:25     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-11 20:25       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-11 20:25       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-17  1:06       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-17  1:06         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-17  1:06         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11 18:18   ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2011-08-11 18:18     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 18:18     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-11 20:38     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-11 20:38       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-11 20:38       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47 ` [PATCH 6/7] mm: vmscan: Throttle reclaim if encountering too many dirty pages under writeback Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-11  9:18   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:18     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:18     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-12  2:47   ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-12  2:47     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-12  2:47     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-16 14:06   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-16 14:06     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-16 14:06     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-16 15:02     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-16 15:02       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-16 15:02       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-18 14:02       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-18 14:02         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-18 14:02         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-18 23:54   ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-18 23:54     ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-18 23:54     ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-30 13:49     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-30 13:49       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-30 13:49       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-31  9:53     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-31  9:53       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-31  9:53       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47 ` [PATCH 7/7] mm: vmscan: Immediately reclaim end-of-LRU dirty pages when writeback completes Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 23:22   ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-10 23:22     ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-10 23:22     ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-11  9:19   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:19     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11  9:19     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-12 15:27   ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-12 15:27     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-12 15:27     ` Rik van Riel
2011-08-10 11:00 ` [PATCH 0/7] Reduce filesystem writeback from page reclaim v3 Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-10 11:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-10 11:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-10 11:15   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 11:15     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-10 11:15     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-11 23:45     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-11 23:45       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-11 23:45       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-18 23:54 ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-18 23:54   ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-18 23:54   ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-20 19:33   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-20 19:33     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-20 19:33     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-30 13:19   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-30 13:19     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-30 13:19     ` Mel Gorman

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