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From: Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>
To: Joshua Brindle <method@manicmethod.com>
Cc: Harry Ciao <qingtao.cao@windriver.com>,
	cpebenito@tresys.com, slawrence@tresys.com,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [v0 PATCH 6/6] Skip tunable identifier and cond_node_t in expansion.
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:24:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E555E0F.7000200@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E553ACC.6020903@manicmethod.com>

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On 08/24/2011 01:54 PM, Joshua Brindle wrote:
> Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>> Eliminating booleans would be great and replacing them with
>> tunables, but the tunables must be discoverable, and it must be
>> easy for the administrator to discover the "tunable" and turn it
>> on.
>> 
>> Currently audit2allow/audit2why turns on all booleans in a policy
>> and checks to see if an AVC would be allowed with any boolean.
>> Then it prints out the booleans that would have allowed the
>> access.  We use this functionality within setroubleshoot.  This
>> is critical to making selinux policy usable.
>> 
>> User wants to allow ftp to access homedirs, he sets up ftp and
>> SELinux blocks the access.  Setroubleshoot comes up and says turn
>> on the ftp_home_dir boolean to allow this access.
>> 
>> 
>> If we can not duplicate this functionality then I NAK the change
>> from booleans to tunables.
> 
> You could actually force a downgrade to a pre-tunable format and
> use that policy to do the setroubleshoot lookups. Since the policy
> is already linked/expanded and just needs to be written out twice
> it wouldn't add much time to policy building (granted that adding
> _any_ time to policy building is adding too much...)
I might not have explained it correctly, I really meant the policy
would have to toggle each tunable/boolean at a time and see if the AVC
was allowed.  Recompiling the policy for each tunable/boolean change
would be not be supportable for Time and CPU reasons.


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  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-24 20:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-23 10:08 v0 Separate tunables from booleans Harry Ciao
2011-08-23 10:08 ` [v0 PATCH 1/6] Indicate when boolean is indeed a tunable Harry Ciao
2011-08-23 10:08 ` [v0 PATCH 2/6] Separate tunable from boolean during compile Harry Ciao
2011-08-23 10:08 ` [v0 PATCH 3/6] Write and read TUNABLE flags in related data structures Harry Ciao
2011-08-23 10:08 ` [v0 PATCH 4/6] Permanently enable the if or else branch of a tunable during link Harry Ciao
2011-08-23 10:08 ` [v0 PATCH 5/6] Copy and check the cond_bool_datum_t.flags " Harry Ciao
2011-08-23 10:08 ` [v0 PATCH 6/6] Skip tunable identifier and cond_node_t in expansion Harry Ciao
2011-08-23 13:43   ` Daniel J Walsh
2011-08-23 13:58     ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2011-08-24 10:32       ` HarryCiao
2011-08-24 12:11         ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2011-08-24 18:00         ` Joshua Brindle
2011-08-25 10:36           ` Harry Ciao
2011-08-24 18:02         ` Joshua Brindle
2011-08-25  3:22           ` Harry Ciao
2011-08-25  4:22             ` Joshua Brindle
2011-08-25 10:38               ` Harry Ciao
2011-08-24 17:54     ` Joshua Brindle
2011-08-24 20:24       ` Daniel J Walsh [this message]
2011-08-24 20:34         ` Joshua Brindle
2011-08-24 21:04           ` Daniel J Walsh
2011-08-24 16:02 ` v0 Separate tunables from booleans Eric Paris
2011-08-25  6:17   ` Harry Ciao
2011-08-25 13:04     ` Daniel J Walsh
2011-08-25 13:35       ` James Carter
2011-08-26 14:28         ` Daniel J Walsh
2011-08-26  1:17       ` Harry Ciao
2011-08-26  2:22         ` Eric Paris
2011-08-26 12:59           ` Daniel J Walsh
2011-08-26 13:06             ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2011-08-26 13:08               ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2011-08-26 14:11           ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2011-08-24 17:38 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2011-08-24 17:52   ` Joshua Brindle
2011-08-25  5:31     ` Harry Ciao
2011-08-25 12:56       ` Joshua Brindle

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