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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	aliguori@us.ibm.com, aik@ozlabs.ru, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, agraf@suse.de
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] virtio: Make memory barriers be memory barriers
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:11:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E607391.9070804@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110902001128.GN11906@yookeroo.fritz.box>

On 09/02/2011 02:11 AM, David Gibson wrote:
>>> >  >Why not limit the change to ppc then?
>> >
>> >  Because the bug is masked by the x86 memory model, but it is still
>> >  there even there conceptually.  It is not really true that x86 does
>> >  not need memory barriers, though it doesn't in this case:
>> >
>> >  http://bartoszmilewski.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/who-ordered-memory-fences-on-an-x86/
> Not to mention that pcc is not the only non-x86 architecture.  I don't
> know all their storage models off hand, but the point is that there is
> a required order to these writes, so there should be a memory barrier.

Indeed, I interpreted Michael's question more as "why not limit the 
change to non-x86".  I think we should cater to all memory models except 
perhaps the Alpha's.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-02  6:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-01  6:09 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] virtio: Make memory barriers be memory barriers David Gibson
2011-09-01  6:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-02  0:08   ` David Gibson
2011-09-02  6:49     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-03 11:53       ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-01  7:37 ` Sasha Levin
2011-09-01  7:38   ` Sasha Levin
2011-09-01  7:56   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-02  0:09     ` David Gibson
2011-09-01 15:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-01 16:14   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-01 16:34     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-01 20:31       ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-02 15:45         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-03 14:46           ` David Gibson
2011-09-04  9:16             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-05  4:43               ` David Gibson
2011-09-05  9:19                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-06  3:12                   ` David Gibson
2011-09-06  6:55                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-06  9:02                       ` David Gibson
2011-09-06  9:28                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-06  9:35                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-06  9:38                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-05  7:41               ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-05  8:06                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-05  9:42                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-03 16:19           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-04  8:47             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-02  0:11     ` David Gibson
2011-09-02  6:11       ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2011-09-02 15:57         ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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