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From: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: joerg.roedel@amd.com, agraf@suse.de, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] Add stub functions for PCI device models to do PCI DMA
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 06:46:46 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E617FFE.6050203@twiddle.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E5FAADF.1040704@us.ibm.com>

On 09/01/2011 09:25 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> I think this is the wrong approach given the introduction of the memory API.
> 
> I think we should have a generic memory access function that takes a MemoryRegion as it's first argument.
> 
> The PCI bus should then expose one memory region for each device (that's how it can figure out where the access is coming from).

A MemoryRegion is the wrong abstraction for the device's view back into system memory.
The new memory API really has nothing to do with DMA or an IOMMU.  Think about it:
99.999% of the time we're writing to the one MemoryRegion that is RAM (with the other
remaining fraction being pci-pci dma tricks), except in a non-contiguous manner.
Obviously we need something else to represent the non-contiguous-ness.

I suppose you could abuse Avi's AddressSpace, with hundreds of MemoryRegion aliases,
but that would be a horrible interface to actually use in this situation.

I think David's patch is fine, as far as it goes for the majority of the PCI-only 
devices that we emulate.  As for the devices attached to more than one bus, they'll
just have to wait until we actually hash out the underlying dma api.


r~

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-03  1:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-01  5:00 [Qemu-devel] [0/10] Preliminary work for IOMMU emulation support; the easy bits David Gibson
2011-09-01  5:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] Add stub functions for PCI device models to do PCI DMA David Gibson
2011-09-01 15:35   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-02  0:39     ` David Gibson
2011-09-02  4:38     ` David Gibson
2011-09-05  7:55       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-01 15:55   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-01 16:03     ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-01 16:05       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-01 16:11         ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-01 16:32           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-02  8:35             ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-03 12:25               ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-02  0:38         ` David Gibson
2011-09-02  8:37         ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-03  3:04           ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2011-09-02  4:40       ` David Gibson
2011-09-03  1:16     ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2011-09-23 16:37   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-01  5:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] rtl8139: Use PCI DMA stub functions David Gibson
2011-09-01  5:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] eepro100: " David Gibson
2011-09-01  5:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] ac97: " David Gibson
2011-09-01  5:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] es1370: " David Gibson
2011-09-01  5:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] e1000: " David Gibson
2011-09-01  5:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] lsi53c895a: " David Gibson
2011-09-01  5:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] pcnet-pci: " David Gibson
2011-09-01  5:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] usb-ohci: " David Gibson
2011-09-01 10:10   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-09-02  1:47     ` David Gibson
2011-09-01  5:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] intel-hda: " David Gibson
2011-09-01 10:16   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-09-02  1:42     ` David Gibson
2011-09-01 11:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [0/10] Preliminary work for IOMMU emulation support; the easy bits Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2011-09-02  0:36   ` David Gibson

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