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From: David Henningsson <david.henningsson@canonical.com>
To: Colin Guthrie <gmane@colin.guthr.ie>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Fallback mechanism for pulse plugin
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:51:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E70791E.8050007@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E6F188A.1040404@colin.guthr.ie>

On 09/13/2011 10:47 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote:
> 'Twas brillig, and Takashi Iwai at 13/09/11 08:55 did gyre and gimble:
>>> Yup I think so. I'll put this on my list (I did try and suggest
>>> something like this a while back, but got little in the way of responses
>>> - I wanted to standardise things rather than have distro hacks
>>> everywhere - can't seem to find the email now, so I'll just resend it
>>> when I have some time to think straight)
>>
>> Yeah, we want to have some really easy way to check whether PA is
>> enabled or not.  For example, in the case of X11, you can check
>> $DISPLAY (or options are given explicitly) as a primary check.
>
> Yeah, but sadly I don't think this is possible. The Ubuntu solution for
> example works differently to yours. (Disclaimer, I've already said I
> think this is ugly). It works by altering the config file dynamically
> such that the default is either dmix or pulse depending on whether PA is
> running. Of course "PA is running" is a broken check in the first place
> (see the "ugly" word in my disclaimer!) as we could be dealing with thin
> clients and remote PA daemons only, in which case there is no running
> PA.

I think adding a function in libpulse named is_PA_enabled() makes sense, 
as discussed somewhere else in this thread. Once we have that, we should 
change "PA is running" to "file_exists(libpulse.so.x) && 
dlopen(libpulse.so.x) && is_PA_enabled()". Does that seem to be a 
reasonable solution?

Then the PulseAudio side of things can decide how to determine the 
result value of is_PA_enabled() - environment variables, client.conf and 
all that.

Other than that I haven't studied the current sysdefault proposal in 
detail, but the general comment is that the sound system configuration 
in Linux is complex enough :-)

-- 
David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd.
http://launchpad.net/~diwic

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-14  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-26 12:33 [PATCH 0/3] Fallback mechanism for pulse plugin Takashi Iwai
2011-07-26 12:34 ` [PATCH 1/3] Define "sysdefault" PCM and control Takashi Iwai
2011-09-12  1:27   ` Raymond Yau
2011-07-26 12:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] Add snd_{ctl|pcm}_open_fallback() functions Takashi Iwai
2011-07-26 12:36 ` [PATCH 3/3] pulse: Add fallback option Takashi Iwai
2011-09-12  1:20   ` Raymond Yau
2011-09-03 15:27 ` [PATCH 0/3] Fallback mechanism for pulse plugin Colin Guthrie
2011-09-11 12:17   ` Consider revert? (was Re: [PATCH 0/3] Fallback mechanism for pulse plugin) Colin Guthrie
2011-09-12  8:05   ` [PATCH 0/3] Fallback mechanism for pulse plugin Takashi Iwai
2011-09-12  8:46     ` Colin Guthrie
2011-09-12  9:23       ` Takashi Iwai
2011-09-12 18:39         ` Colin Guthrie
2011-09-13  7:55           ` Takashi Iwai
2011-09-13  8:47             ` Colin Guthrie
2011-09-13  9:50               ` Takashi Iwai
2011-09-13 11:00                 ` Colin Guthrie
2011-09-13 12:18                   ` Takashi Iwai
2011-09-13 12:38                     ` Colin Guthrie
2011-09-14  9:51               ` David Henningsson [this message]
2011-09-14 10:35                 ` Colin Guthrie
2011-09-14 10:50                   ` David Henningsson
2011-09-14 10:55                     ` Colin Guthrie
2011-09-13 17:09             ` Arun Raghavan
2011-09-24 22:43 ` Raymond Yau

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