Re: New HIPS based on SELinux

["Patrick K., ITF" <cto@itechfrontiers.com>]

Generating alerts is not Anomaly Based analysis, it is simply generating 
alerts based on SELinux logs,

This is in no way fit into any definition of HIPS/HIDPS as security 
industry defines it.

There is no such deterministic or non-deterministic statistical analysis 
going on here, that you put your program into that category, those are 
based on established Math actually, We use Advanced Statistical Math in 
Anomaly analysis (in item 2: anomaly analysis you referred it to) taking 
into account system factors and components


Best Regards,

Patrick K.

On 10/6/2011 6:18 AM, Hramchenko wrote:
> Hello, Patrick
>
> Thanks for your reply. I understand your concerns about the term of HIPS.
>
> I didn't want to mislead users, but User Data Defence is not new another
> policies editor.
>
> User Data Defence also provides customizable alerts notification. User could
> specify alert look and set its level. This function helps to filter critical
> alerts from other messages.
>
> I think alerts notification provides detection of program anomalies:
>
> 	2) Anomaly based analysis of threats against the server, in example
> statistical analysis, Integrity analysis and etc.
>
> Of course, User Data Defence is not so powerful as chkrootkit HBIDS, but it is
> an attempt to provide simple instrument for blocking attacks to user mode
> applications.
>
> With respect, Hramchenko Vitaliy.
>
> Patrick K. wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I think you are misusing the term "HIPS" here, (or using your own
>> definition actually)
>>
>> Sorry to be pedantic but, SELinux as you know is an add-on (platform
>> ) to the kernel providing Access Control (RBAC, IBAC, MAC and etc.) and
>> MLS (Multi-Level Security)
>>
>> While encouraging you for your work but I'm afraid it is as you
>> explained yourself:
>>
>> " User Data Defence includes set of template policies, which makes
>> process of creation SELinux specifications for user mode applications
>> simple .... "
>>
>> in other words, It is A Graphical user Interface for creating SELinux
>> Policies
>>
>>
>> BUT, Host based Intrusion Prevention System,  (HIPS)
>>
>> or more accurately Host Based Intrusion Detection and Prevention System
>> (HIDPS) requires a method to detect attacks and react upon them or
>> interact with them (Preemptive approach), taking into account the server
>> or workstation parameters and conditions, utilizing either or
>> combination of :
>>
>> 1) Signature based analysis of threats
>>
>>
>> 2) Anomaly based analysis of threats against the server,
>> in example statistical analysis, Integrity analysis and etc.
>>
>>
>> 3) Protocol Anomaly Analysis
>>
>>
>> 4) Heuristic analysis
>> combination of methods  using Expert systems or other means in
>> Artificial Intelligence/Synthetic Intelligence  such as Petri nets,
>> Artificial Neural Networks and etc.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Patrick K.
>>
>> On 10/5/2011 2:30 PM, Hramchenko wrote:
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> I have created new host intrusion prevention system based on SELinux.
>>> It's focused on protection user's data.
>>> One of the main goals was to create lightweight replacement of
>>> setroubleshootd.
>>>
>>> I hope my program will be useful for SELinux users.
>>>
>>> The project home page:
>>> https://github.com/Hramchenko/userdatadefence/
>>>
>>> With respect, Hramchenko Vitaliy.
>>>
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