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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/8] block: add eject request callback
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:14:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EB803E6.5010605@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3pqh4vtvk.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>

On 11/07/2011 04:23 PM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> 1. eject without -f is as you mentioned.
>
> Would implementing the missing part help with the problem at hand?

It would help for non-buggy guests.  Buggy means even "echo -1 > 
/sys/block/sr0/events_poll_msecs".

However, a full solution would require a change in management, and 
adding a TRAY_STATUS_CHANGED event to QEMU.  Not sure this is required 
for 1.0, as it can even be added later to stable.

>> 2. eject with -f should really never be needed, but it does whatever
>> is needed to be able to follow up with a "change" command.  It turns
>> out it is really "unlock" and "ask the guest to eject" combined, but
>> that's the implementation, not the model.
>
> Physical hardware doesn't work that way (unless I misunderstand it).
> Always a warning sign.

True.

>> The difference from the paperclip model is that it gives a chance for
>> the OS to clean up and eject safely.  It wouldn't be hard to convince
>> me otherwise though, especially if it can help getting the patch in
>> 1.0. The "eject -f"+"change" can be replaced by "eject", possibly
>> followed by "eject -f" after a timeout, and then followed again by
>> "change".
>
> On bare metal, the pressing the tray button accomplishes that: the drive
> notifies the OS the button was pressed, the well-behaved OS cleans up
> and ejects.  With a misbehaving OS, you're reduced to the paperclip.
>
> Can't we replicate that?
>
> 1. Tray button / eject without -f
>
>     A. when the tray is not locked: tray opens immediately.
>
>     B. when the tray is locked: OS gets notified.  We expect it to clean
>        up, unlock and open the tray at some point in the near future.
>
> 2. Paperclip / eject with -f
>
>     Tray opens immediately.  Guest OS may be unhappy about it.

I now redid my tests with the paperclip behavior (it's really one line 
of different code) and everything seems to work.  Will submit v2.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-07 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-25 10:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] My remaining block/SCSI patches for 1.0 Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-25 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] scsi: do not call transfer_data after canceling a request Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-25 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/8] scsi-disk: bump SCSIRequest reference count until aio completion runs Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-25 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] scsi-generic: " Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-25 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] scsi: push request restart to SCSIDevice Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-25 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/8] scsi-disk: add scsi-block for device passthrough Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-28 17:04   ` Kevin Wolf
2011-10-25 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/8] block: add eject request callback Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-28 17:21   ` Kevin Wolf
2011-10-29  7:46     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-07 13:21   ` Markus Armbruster
2011-11-07 13:36     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-07 13:49       ` Kevin Wolf
2011-11-07 13:56         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-07 14:12           ` Kevin Wolf
2011-11-07 15:23       ` Markus Armbruster
2011-11-07 16:14         ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2011-11-07 16:50   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/8 v2] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-08 13:18     ` Kevin Wolf
2011-10-25 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/8] atapi: implement eject requests Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-25 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/8] scsi-disk: " Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-27 11:45 ` [Qemu-devel] ping Re: [PATCH 0/5] My remaining block/SCSI patches for 1.0 Paolo Bonzini

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