From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mga11.intel.com (mga11.intel.com [192.55.52.93]) by yocto-www.yoctoproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F8DE00305 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:49:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from fmsmga002.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.26]) by fmsmga102.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2011 13:49:34 -0800 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,511,1315206000"; d="scan'208,217";a="90395967" Received: from orsmsx603.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.22.226.49]) by fmsmga002.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2011 13:49:32 -0800 Received: from orsmsx502.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.22.226.210]) by orsmsx603.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.22.226.49]) with mapi; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:49:27 -0800 From: "Erway, Tracey M" To: "yocto@yoctoproject.org" Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:49:25 -0800 Thread-Topic: applying the Yocto Project to Automotive interests Thread-Index: AcyjF0cOmIRxGSRrTzWthHPyxOhPkA== Message-ID: <89A1C7FA02B5DF4A8A58BF8DC6B65FDF014912B137@orsmsx502.amr.corp.intel.com> Accept-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: applying the Yocto Project to Automotive interests X-BeenThere: yocto@yoctoproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of all things Yocto List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:49:34 -0000 Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_89A1C7FA02B5DF4A8A58BF8DC6B65FDF014912B137orsmsx502amrc_" --_000_89A1C7FA02B5DF4A8A58BF8DC6B65FDF014912B137orsmsx502amrc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, I'm presenting a Yocto Project session at the upcoming Linux Foundation Aut= omotive Summit in Yokohama, Japan at the end of November. I thought that folks on this list might have suggestions for pertinent subj= ect matter that I should include in the session. It's only 30 minutes, so I'll need to paint a broad picture. All suggestions welcome, /t Tracey M. Erway The Yocto Project* - www.yoctoproject.org Intel Corporation 503 . 264 . 6435 Effective VM to Email Service 503 . 709 . 1221 Cell / Blackberry --_000_89A1C7FA02B5DF4A8A58BF8DC6B65FDF014912B137orsmsx502amrc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Folks,

I’m presenting a Yocto Project session at t= he upcoming Linux Foundation Automotive Summit in Yokohama, Japan at the en= d of November.

I thought that folks on t= his list might have suggestions for pertinent subject matter that I should = include in the session.

It’s only = 30 minutes, so I’ll need to paint a broad picture.

All sugges= tions welcome,

Tracey M. Erway

The Yocto Project* - www.yoctoproject.org

Intel Corporation<= /o:p>
503 .= 264 . 6435 Effective VM to Email Service
503 . 709 . 1221 Cell= / Blackberry

= --_000_89A1C7FA02B5DF4A8A58BF8DC6B65FDF014912B137orsmsx502amrc_-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mga02.intel.com (mga02.intel.com [134.134.136.20]) by yocto-www.yoctoproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF897E00307 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from orsmga001.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.18]) by orsmga101.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2011 12:20:05 -0800 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,352,1309762800"; d="scan'208";a="76508367" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.255.12.87]) ([10.255.12.87]) by orsmga001.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2011 12:20:05 -0800 Message-ID: <4EC41AF4.8000303@linux.intel.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:20:04 -0800 From: Joshua Lock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110930 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yocto@yoctoproject.org References: <89A1C7FA02B5DF4A8A58BF8DC6B65FDF014912B137@orsmsx502.amr.corp.intel.com> In-Reply-To: <89A1C7FA02B5DF4A8A58BF8DC6B65FDF014912B137@orsmsx502.amr.corp.intel.com> Subject: Re: applying the Yocto Project to Automotive interests X-BeenThere: yocto@yoctoproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of all things Yocto List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:20:05 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tracey, On 14/11/11 13:49, Erway, Tracey M wrote: > Folks, > > I’m presenting a Yocto Project session at the upcoming Linux Foundation > Automotive Summit in Yokohama, Japan at the end of November. > > I thought that folks on this list might have suggestions for pertinent > subject matter that I should include in the session. > > It’s only 30 minutes, so I’ll need to paint a broad picture. I think IVI folks will be keen to know we make point releases with bug, security and build fixes - we should see Bernard 1.0.2 and Edison 1.1.1 releases this quarter. Cheers, Joshua -- Joshua Lock Yocto Project "Johannes factotum" Intel Open Source Technology Centre From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.windriver.com (mail.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by yocto-www.yoctoproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCAAE006F5 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:51:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ALA-HCA.corp.ad.wrs.com (ala-hca [147.11.189.40]) by mail.windriver.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAGKpf40019062 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:51:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from Macintosh-5.local (172.25.36.235) by ALA-HCA.corp.ad.wrs.com (147.11.189.50) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.255.0; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:51:41 -0800 Message-ID: <4EC4225C.2060100@windriver.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:51:40 -0600 From: Mark Hatle Organization: Wind River Systems User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <89A1C7FA02B5DF4A8A58BF8DC6B65FDF014912B137@orsmsx502.amr.corp.intel.com> In-Reply-To: <89A1C7FA02B5DF4A8A58BF8DC6B65FDF014912B137@orsmsx502.amr.corp.intel.com> Subject: Re: applying the Yocto Project to Automotive interests X-BeenThere: yocto@yoctoproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of all things Yocto List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:51:43 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 11/14/11 3:49 PM, Erway, Tracey M wrote: > Folks, > > I’m presenting a Yocto Project session at the upcoming Linux Foundation > Automotive Summit in Yokohama, Japan at the end of November. > > I thought that folks on this list might have suggestions for pertinent subject > matter that I should include in the session. > > It’s only 30 minutes, so I’ll need to paint a broad picture. > > All suggestions welcome, Automotive release cycles are -very- long.. in the 4-5 year development time frame and 10-15 year product support time frame. As I understand it, the Yocto Project does not intend to continue support for any release within those time frames. This is where the end user and/or OSV will need to determine the support requirements and support policies outside of what Yocto provides. Yocto does not provide an "application framework" (this was a big selling point of Moblin/MeeGo). Yocto allows someone to generate their own Linux distribution for their own needs. What this means to someone like GENIVI is that they CAN create an application framework based on Yocto, but it would be work they would need to do (with us) likely in using a custom layer that specifies specific distribution settings, enhancements, etc. Yocto is a cross-compiled build environment. This is a departure to a lot of the Moblin/MeeGo work that has occurred in the past. The advantages are you can use any commodity PC to target any (supported) architecture. Disadvantages are that when you introduce new code, you need to ensure that it has a recipe (build instructions for bitbake) and can cross compile. If everyone has to do the same work over and over, this can be time consuming and counter productive. If people work together, the time and support burden are dramatically reduced. This can help negate issues people have had in the past with cross compiling. Note: Yocto -does- have a self hosted compile environment if it is needed, this is usually when cross compiling isn't easy to do for some reason. Yocto currently does not support a set of "blessed" binary packages. Our expectation is that the users of Yocto will create their own distributions, and then in turn provide binary packages to their own customers/users in whatever mechanism is appropriate. If the automotive folks want to start with binary packages and simply add their own stuff on top, someone will need to create the distribution (see above about settings and frameworks) and provide the "blessed" package feeds. Anyone have any other questions/comments let me know. I'm pretty familiar with automotive and GENIVI requirements as of a few years ago. I'm a bit out of date with the current work however. --Mark > /t > > */Tracey M. Erway/* > > */The Yocto Project* - /**/www.yoctoproject.org/* > > Intel Corporation > > 503 . 264 . 6435 Effective VM to Email Service > > 503 . 709 . 1221 Cell / Blackberry > > > > _______________________________________________ > yocto mailing list > yocto@yoctoproject.org > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto