From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.chez-thomas.org (hermes.mlbassoc.com [64.234.241.98]) by yocto-www.yoctoproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45454E0030C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:04:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.chez-thomas.org (Postfix, from userid 999) id 65E4D1660B22; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:04:35 -0700 (MST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on hermes.chez-thomas.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from hermes.chez-thomas.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.chez-thomas.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252471660AF3; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:04:34 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4EC68212.2030702@mlbassoc.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:04:34 -0700 From: Gary Thomas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110930 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Balister References: <94FEB92A-6B46-4F5E-A331-B558F109B796@keylevel.com> <4EC6280B.1010308@communistcode.co.uk> <4D9E0AFD9C2FCC428A8EAADA898F5B2D0E8A96@TAMANS-MB100V.thcg.net> <4EC68022.7040407@mlbassoc.com> <4EC68104.30305@balister.org> In-Reply-To: <4EC68104.30305@balister.org> Cc: "yocto@yoctoproject.org" Subject: Re: Yocto usability questions X-BeenThere: yocto@yoctoproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of all things Yocto List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:04:37 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 2011-11-18 09:00, Philip Balister wrote: > On 11/18/2011 10:56 AM, Gary Thomas wrote: >> On 2011-11-18 08:02, Ourada, Paul wrote: >>> Jack said: >>>> From: yocto-bounces@yoctoproject.org >>>> [mailto:yocto-bounces@yoctoproject.org] On Behalf Of Jack Mitchell >>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 2:40 AM >>>> To: yocto@yoctoproject.org >>>> Subject: Re: [yocto] Yocto usability questions >>>> >>>> On 17/11/2011 21:38, Chris Tapp wrote: >>>> On 16 Nov 2011, at 22:07, Jeff Osier-Mixon wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark& everyone else listening: >>>> >>>> >>>> It is very frustrating when you come to an issue that isn't >>>> documented, however I have found the IRC an invaluable>resource as >>>> well as this mailing list. If documentation was to become more >>>> extensive I feel the categories should be>defined further and split >>>> into more documents. >>> >>> I would just add that for some corporate/enterprise customers (such as >>> myself), while IRC is great, it isn't as great an option because >>> corporate IS locks down IRC protocols. To use IRC, I would have to do >>> so from a non-work computer and likely outside of normal work hours, >>> of which I already put in way more than my wife would prefer. :) >> >> IMO, IRC is like gossip - only those present learn anything :-( I think >> information >> should be shared and archived and IRC doesn't really cover that. That's >> part of why >> I pepper these lists with questions and problems and ... >> > > Good irc channels are logged and the logs will be hit with google searches. But that's hardly the same as having the "conversation(s)" delivered to my desk, along with [normally] useful subject lines, that I can peruse at will. It's the difference between push [mailing lists] and pull [IRC logs]. -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Gary Thomas | Consulting for the MLB Associates | Embedded world ------------------------------------------------------------