From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtprelay-h22.telenor.se ([195.54.99.197]) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RUNTX-0007pC-FR for openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:59:47 +0100 Received: from ipb3.telenor.se (ipb3.telenor.se [195.54.127.166]) by smtprelay-h22.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E525EABA3 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:53:08 +0100 (CET) X-SENDER-IP: [83.227.56.19] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArEbAPs00U5T4zgTPGdsb2JhbAAMOIlKoU4BAQEBN4IkAQEBAQIBOEAGCwsYCRYPCQMCAQIBDyIUEwYCAQEVh2y1V4dNgxUElEqKVoc2 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,576,1315173600"; d="scan'208";a="3409692" Received: from c-1338e353.011-39-73746f12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO [10.175.196.244]) ([83.227.56.19]) by ipb3.telenor.se with ESMTP; 26 Nov 2011 19:53:07 +0100 Message-ID: <4ED13592.3060506@telia.com> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:53:06 +0100 From: Ulf Samuelsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110922 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org References: <4ECD76E2.3040001@opendreambox.org> <0C757E680E33864AB113392C7E83F910BE5242@GSX300A.mxchg.m.corp> <1322134409.3391.21.camel@mattotaupa> <4ED0C603.9020900@telia.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Plans for OE classic future X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:59:47 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 2011-11-26 16:20, Tom Rini wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 3:57 AM, Ulf Samuelsson > wrote: >> On 2011-11-25 23:04, Tom Rini wrote: >>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Frans Meulenbroeks >>> wrote: >>> >>>> After all, isn't one of the purposes of OE to promote information >>>> sharing, >>>> cooperation and the use of openembedded technology (and not make things >>>> harder). >>> One of the points of making master read-only would be to ensure that >>> changes aren't lost. >>> >>> Perhaps the transition needs to be: >>> - master is as it is today >>> - master becomes oe-core backport || master-only bugfixes only >>> - master becomes read only. >>> >>> And we go from the first step to the second step sometime sooner >>> rather than later. The top of my head date would be before the >>> paid-developers go on end of year breaks to try and make sure all the >>> hobbyist folks start their hacking with oe-core+etc rather than master >>> and risk getting caught later. I'm open to arguments on why that's >>> exactly backwards... >>> >> Won't it be a problem for existing projects, if you cannot add fixes to cope >> with new host OS versions. >> >> At the moment, openembedded-classic does not build properly with Ubuntu >> 11.10 . > Won't what be a problem? Either oe-core+meta-oe+etc fails on 11.10 > (so, fix it there first then backport changes) or it's fine and you > can either find the relevant changes there and move them or it's a > oe.dev-only bug and just needs to be fixed, under my proposal (until > we reach the point where everyone is OK calling it r/o). Making it R/O. /Ulf > And part of this is to say that yes, existing projects external to > oe.dev need to move to oe-core(+meta-oe+whatever else) (where layers > should be making their life easier or again, there's problems we're > unaware of and need to be made aware of) or explain why they can't > ever move (and are forking the project?). > -- Best Regards Ulf Samuelsson