From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from bitbox.plus.com ([81.174.226.42] helo=bitbox.co.uk) by casper.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76 #1 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1RXc2O-00081w-34 for linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:09:09 +0000 Message-ID: <4EDCFAAC.90709@bitbox.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:09:00 +0000 From: Peter Horton MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Dunn Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] MTD: modify mtd api to return bitflip info on read operations References: <1322943640-11728-1-git-send-email-mikedunn@newsguy.com> <4EDB3295.6040201@bitbox.co.uk> <4EDB7B1D.60603@newsguy.com> <1323009827.9400.75.camel@sauron.fi.intel.com> <4EDB89E9.6070306@newsguy.com> <1323065234.2316.2.camel@koala> <4EDCF840.7050107@newsguy.com> In-Reply-To: <4EDCF840.7050107@newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, dedekind1@gmail.com List-Id: Linux MTD discussion mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On 05/12/2011 16:58, Mike Dunn wrote: > On 12/04/2011 10:07 PM, Artem Bityutskiy wrote: >> On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 06:55 -0800, Mike Dunn wrote: >>> So you're thinking that the driver would supply both ecc_strength and >>> "scrublevel" (or maybe bb_threshold)? Would these go into struct mtd_info? >> Probably yes. After all, UBI has no idea about what kind of flash is >> that and what kind of ECC it uses and what bit-flip level needs >> scrubbing. So I think this kind of information should come from the >> driver or from the user via mtd sysfs files. What do you think? > > > I'm not a flash expert, but that sounds reasonable, especially if the scrublevel > parameter is optional, with UBI using ecc_strength as the default value. As for > how to pass the parameter, sysfs might be a good idea for scrublevel, allowing > it to be tunable without having to modify the driver if experience show that the > driver author's original assumptions about how a block degrades were incorrect. > Surely the check for "do we need to scrub ?" should be done lower down otherwise all users of the mtd NAND interface (UBI / JFFS2 etc) are going to have to re-implement those sysfs files and the corresponding checks. P.