From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/20] qom: dynamic properties and composition tree
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:55:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EEB3FA4.9010807@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EEB3891.2020003@redhat.com>
Am 16.12.2011 13:24, schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
> On 12/16/2011 11:36 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>> I think actually this is not the biggest problem. child properties are
>>> dynamic, and it's not a problem IMO if they are created like that.
>>
>> That they are added in an init function is an indicator that they aren't
>> really dynamic.
>
> That's true. However, another indicator is that anything that does not
> have a struct field is also not really static. :)
I don't think that not remembering the child device because you don't
need to reference it any more makes it any less static. You could easily
add the struct member, assign it once and then it matches your
definition of static.
And it's not even true of all child devices, for example PCII440FXState
does have a pointer to its piix3 already.
> So right now, child properties are all "dynamic" in this sense. This
> could change when Anthony converts buses to QOM. The bus right now is
> embedded into the HBA's struct, is not a pointer. This likely would
> change when buses are QOM-ized, but then the bus would indeed be a 100%
> static child.
>
>> I think having a child property that can be NULL could be
>> reasonable.
>
> I think Anthony convinced me this is not the case (unlike links). Even
> if buses and similar objects are changed to pointers because the
> implementation needs that, those pointers should never be NULL (or if
> they can, the child property should not exist when they are NULL).
So child properties are never configurable, and if a device is optional
or you can choose between multiple devices then it should be a link
instead. That is, device composition in term of "child devices" happens
only hard-coded and the user doesn't do it.
Is this a reasonably accurate description of the intention?
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-12-16 12:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-12 20:29 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/20] qom: dynamic properties and composition tree Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 01/20] qom: add a reference count to qdev objects Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 02/20] qom: add new dynamic property infrastructure based on Visitors (v2) Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 03/20] qom: register legacy properties as new style properties (v2) Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 04/20] qom: introduce root device Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 05/20] qdev: provide an interface to return canonical path from root (v2) Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 06/20] qdev: provide a path resolution (v2) Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 07/20] qom: add child properties (composition) (v3) Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 08/20] qom: add link properties (v2) Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 09/20] qapi: allow a 'gen' key to suppress code generation Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 10/20] qmp: add qom-list command Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 11/20] qom: qom_{get, set} monitor commands (v2) Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 12/20] qdev: add explicitly named devices to the root complex Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 13/20] dev: add an anonymous peripheral container Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 14/20] rtc: make piix3 set the rtc as a child (v2) Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 15/20] rtc: add a dynamic property for retrieving the date Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 16/20] qom: optimize qdev_get_canonical_path using a parent link Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 17/20] qom: add vga node to the pc composition tree Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 18/20] qom: add string property type Anthony Liguori
2011-12-12 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 19/20] qdev: add a qdev_get_type() function and expose as a 'type' property Anthony Liguori
2011-12-15 18:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/20] qom: dynamic properties and composition tree Anthony Liguori
2011-12-16 9:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-12-16 10:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-12-16 10:36 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-12-16 12:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-12-16 12:55 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2011-12-16 13:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-12-16 13:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-16 13:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-16 13:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-12-16 14:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-16 14:18 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-12-16 14:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-16 14:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-12-16 15:10 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-12-16 13:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-16 13:48 ` Anthony Liguori
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