From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41001) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbgyR-0003qb-Sy for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:13:56 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbgyQ-0002i4-Kh for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:13:55 -0500 Received: from v220110690675601.yourvserver.net ([78.47.199.172]:36689) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbgyQ-0002ho-G4 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:13:54 -0500 Message-ID: <4EEBD071.4040208@weilnetz.de> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 00:12:49 +0100 From: Stefan Weil MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1322947941-8521-1-git-send-email-sw@weilnetz.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] w32: QEMU applications with SDL are always GUI applications List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: TeLeMan Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org Am 16.12.2011 04:24, schrieb TeLeMan: > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 05:32, Stefan Weil wrote: >> Since commit 1d14ffa97eacd3cb722271eaf6f093038396eac4 (in 2005), >> QEMU applications on W32 don't use the default SDL compiler flags: >> >> Instead of a GUI application, a console application is created. >> >> This has disadvantages (there is always an empty console window) and >> no obvious reason, so this patch removes the strange flag modification. >> >> The SDL GUI applications still can be run from a console window >> and even send stdout and stderr to that console by setting environment >> variable SDL_STDIO_REDIRECT=no. > Did you test it? Windows GUI applications can not send stdout to the > startup console window unless they create their own console window. I did, but obviously not good enough: in an msys rxvt console the QEMU executables work as I wrote in the commit message. So msys-rxvt and some other applications (SciTE for example) allow running GUI applications with stdio channels. The Windows command prompt (cmd.exe) is different, and so is the normal MSYS console. Here console output does not work, and I also noticed problems when running an emulation with latest QEMU (application hangs). It seems to be difficult to get a solution which works for several scenarios: * It should be possible to create a link which starts an emulation with parameters and only one window (SDL, no extra console window). This needs a GUI application (or is it possible for a console application to suppress or close the console window?). * It must be possible to see stdout and stderr output. Default today: both are written to files in the program directory. This is bad because normally users have no write access there. It also does not allow running more than one emulation with separated output. * It should be possible to get stdout and stderr directly to the console. This is needed for running with curses, and it is useful when asking for -help. * It must be possible to run QEMU executables from cmd.exe. * It should be possible to run QEMU executables from other shells (msys command line, msys rxvt, cygwin command line, ...). What would you suggest? Regards, Stefan Weil