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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: "lmr@redhat.com" <lmr@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	cleber@redhat.com, dlaor@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>, Cleber Rosa <crosa@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [ANNOUNCE] qemu-test: a set of tests scripts for QEMU
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 19:26:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EFB5138.5020502@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EFB4757.4020504@codemonkey.ws>

On 12/28/2011 06:44 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 12/28/2011 09:28 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> On 12/28/2011 05:01 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> I'd say that running a ping test is a weak version of kvm-autotest's
>>> system tests.  Running a synthetic test that pokes values into memory
>>> and mmio and sees a packet coming out is a unit test (the latter can in
>>> fact be executed without a guest at all, just a table driving calls to
>>> the memory and irq APIs).
>>>
>>
>> Consider
>>    98d23704138e0
>>    7b4252e83f6f7d
>>    f7e80adf3cc4
>>    c16ada980f43
>>    4abf12f4ea8
>>
>> (found by looking for 'fix' in the commit log and filtering out the
>> commits that don't support my case)
>>
>> how can you reject such patches on the grounds that they're not
>> accompanied by unit tests?
>
> That's why I've also proposed qtest.  But having written quite a few
> qtest unit tests by now, you hit the limits of this type of testing
> pretty quickly.

Can you describe those limits?

>
>> only by making it easy to add tests for
>> them.  I think it would be hard/impossible to test them with
>> linux-as-a-guest, since they fix edge cases that linux doesn't invoke.
>> But by having our own driver (often just using qmp to poke at memory),
>> we can easily generate the sequence that triggers the error.
>>
>> We'd probably need a library to support setting up a pci device's BARs,
>> but that's easy with qmp/python integration.  You can even poke a small
>> executable into memory and execute it directly, if you really need guest
>> cpu interaction.
>
> Please review the qtest series.  I think it offers a pretty good
> approach to writing this style of test.  But as I mentioned, you hit
> the limits pretty quickly.

I think it's great, it looks like exactly what I wanted, except it's
been delivered on time.  I'd really like to see it integrated quickly
with some flesh around it, then replying -ENOTEST to all patches.  This
will improve qemu's quality a lot more than guest boot/ping tests, which
we do regularly with kvm-autotest anyway.

Think of how new instruction emulations are always accompanied by new
kvm-unit-tests tests, I often don't even have to ask for them.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-28 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-19 17:13 [Qemu-devel] [ANNOUNCE] qemu-test: a set of tests scripts for QEMU Anthony Liguori
2011-12-19 17:39 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-19 17:55   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 20:34     ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2011-12-25 15:19 ` Dor Laor
2011-12-26 15:12   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-26 23:00     ` Dor Laor
2011-12-27 15:22       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-27 15:58         ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-27 16:40           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-27 18:00             ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2011-12-27 22:35       ` Cleber Rosa
2011-12-28  2:37         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-28  4:15           ` Cleber Rosa
2011-12-28  5:01           ` Cleber Rosa
2011-12-28 14:27             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-28 15:01               ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-28 15:28                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-28 16:44                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-28 17:26                     ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-12-29 16:12                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-29 16:36                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 16:49                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-29 17:03                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 17:10                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-29 17:18                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 17:22                           ` Peter Maydell
2011-12-29 17:26                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 17:36                               ` Peter Maydell
2011-12-29 17:40                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 17:49                               ` Peter Maydell
2011-12-29 17:56                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 21:10                                   ` Peter Maydell
2012-01-01  9:21                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 18:35                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-29 19:04                                   ` Peter Maydell
2011-12-29 19:40                                     ` Blue Swirl
2011-12-29 21:46                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-29 22:10                                       ` Peter Maydell
2011-12-29 22:30                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-30 15:43                                           ` Andreas Färber
2012-01-03 13:42                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-03 14:51                                               ` Andreas Färber
2011-12-29 22:11                                     ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2011-12-29 18:33                             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-30 13:44                               ` Andreas Färber
2012-01-02 14:07                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-01-03  8:19                                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-03  9:10                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-12-28 16:42                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-28 17:21                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 14:38                     ` Dor Laor
2011-12-29 16:39                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-29 16:53                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 17:02                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-29 17:06                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 17:11                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-29 23:17                             ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2011-12-30  0:33                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-30  1:20                                 ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2011-12-30  2:20                                   ` Cleber Rosa
2012-01-03 13:52                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-29 22:45                       ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2011-12-29 16:26                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-29 16:46                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 16:53                         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-29 17:08                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 17:14                             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-29 17:22                               ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 18:27                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-29 17:16                             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-29 17:23                               ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-28 14:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-12-28 16:30   ` Anthony Liguori

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