From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Steven Haigh Subject: Re: SMART, RAID and real world experience of failures. Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2012 22:40:28 +1100 Message-ID: <4F06DDAC.1050501@crc.id.au> References: <4F063808.6040000@crc.id.au> <20230.55643.346235.891308@tree.ty.sabi.co.UK> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20230.55643.346235.891308@tree.ty.sabi.co.UK> Sender: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Linux RAID List-Id: linux-raid.ids On 6/01/2012 10:22 PM, Peter Grandi wrote: > [ ... ] > >> I got a SMART error email yesterday from my home server with a >> 4 x 1Tb RAID6. [ ... ] > > That's an (euphemism alert) imaginative setup. Why not a 4 drive > RAID10? In general there are vanishingly few cases in which > RAID6 makes sense, and in the 4 drive case a RAID10 makes even > more sense than usual. Especially with the really cool setup > options that MD RAID10 offers. The main reason is the easy ability to grow the RAID6 to an extra drive when I need the space. I've just about allocated all of the array to various VMs and file storage. One thats full, its easier to add another 1Tb drive, grow the RAID, grow the PV and then either add more LVs or grow the ones that need it. Sadly, I don't have the cash flow to just replace the 1Tb drives with 2Tb drives or whatever the flavour of the month is after 2 years. >> This makes me ponder. Has the drive recovered? Has the sector >> with the read failure been remapped and hidden from view? Is >> it still (more?) likely to fail in the near future? > > Uhmmm, slightly naive questions. A 1TB drive has almost 2 > billion sectors, so "bad" sectors should be common. > > But the main point is that what is a "bad" sector is a messy > story, and most "bad" sectors are really marginal (and an > argument can be made that most sectors are marginal or else PRML > encoding would not be necessary). So many things can go wrong, > and not all fatally. For example when writing some "bad" sectors > the drive was vibrating a bit more and the head was accordingly > a little bit off, etc. > > Writing-over some marginal sectors often refreshes the > recording, and it is no longer marginal, and otherwise as you > guessed the drive can substitute the sector with a spare > (something that it cannot really do on reading of course). This is what I was wondering... The drive has been running for about 1.9 years - pretty much 24/7. From checking the seagate web site, its still under warranty until the end of 2012. I guess it seems that the best thing to do is monitor the drive as I have been doing and see if its a once off or becomes a regular occurrence. My system does a check of the RAID every week as part of the cron setup, so I'd hope things like this get picked up before it starts losing any redundancy. -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz@crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9001 6090 - 0412 935 897 Fax: (03) 8338 0299