From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mga09.intel.com (mga09.intel.com [134.134.136.24]) by yocto-www.yoctoproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2652E01374 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:16:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from orsmga002.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.21]) by orsmga102.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 10 Jan 2012 14:16:00 -0800 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,351,1309762800"; d="scan'208";a="96730546" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.255.14.3]) ([10.255.14.3]) by orsmga002.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 10 Jan 2012 14:16:00 -0800 Message-ID: <4F0CB8A0.9030107@linux.intel.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:16:00 -0800 From: Joshua Lock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yocto@yoctoproject.org References: <289CD940EE567444BB43E62E0C3028F328F52A19@NA-MBX-02.mgc.mentorg.com> In-Reply-To: <289CD940EE567444BB43E62E0C3028F328F52A19@NA-MBX-02.mgc.mentorg.com> Subject: Re: RFC: Joint, monthly, and online forum for developer discussion X-BeenThere: yocto@yoctoproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of all things Yocto List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:16:01 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Sean, On 09/01/12 17:49, Hudson, Sean wrote: > I propose having a monthly, online developer forum that promotes > discussion on longer term technical issues that impact both Yocto and > OpenEmbedded. This would supplement the already existing mailing list > and irc communication channels. In order to facilitate this, I’d like to > propose a telephone/web conference, which my employer has agreed to host. > This forum would help provide an additional way for the community to > discuss technical issues and share information about planned work and > works in progress. I really like the intent here, a lot of people don't like IRC/mailing lists and I'd like to enable as many people as possible to participate in the project. Two things worry me about a telephone/web conference: 1) Our projects have participants spread across many time-zones and it will be difficult to accommodate more than one or two of those in any such real-time discussion. 2) In my experience as the number of participants in a call increases the ability for individuals to comment decreases. Generally I find calls with more than half a dozen or so participants difficult to participate in. I suspect I'm not alone. Additionally, with respect to 1), I worry about how we might enable folks unable to attend to, if not participate in the discussion, at least be aware of what was discussed. I'm not sure that minutes would be sufficient for more technical topics. With that said I do think such conversations are important and would be happy to join in. I simply want to raise my concerns early and see if anyone has ideas which might help here. > Initial Topics for Discussion might include: > > 1. layering definitions – discussion on what exists today and how to > make it better > 2. discussions on techniques to make working with oe/yocto better > 3. oe/yocto disconnects (opportunities for better alignment) > 4. common new user issues > 5. documentation (standards, lacks, etc) > 6. ? I think this is a great set of topics, and very worthy of discussion. I'd certainly like to be involved in 2,3&4. Cheers, Joshua -- Joshua Lock Yocto Project "Johannes factotum" Intel Open Source Technology Centre