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From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
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	Jeff Chua <jeff.chua.linux@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mce: fix warning messages about static struct mce_device
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 01:01:46 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F171E22.7000104@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPXgP10Du4nJ_hdfwqV0Fr6XEVkTMO6jZ_TS_T-J-grDG7nKJw@mail.gmail.com>

On 01/19/2012 12:20 AM, Kay Sievers wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 19:10, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
> 
>> There's nothing special about the driver model code in this respect.
>> The same restriction applies wherever object lifetimes are controlled
>> by reference counting.
> 
> Right. But it might not be obvious what 's the background here:
> 
> An allocated device object(memory) usually represents an actual
> device(hardware). The object can have N users. Every of the users is
> required to take a reference to the object, which pins the object's
> memory as long as any of the N users might need to access it.
> 
> In a hotplug world, we deal with device-removal.  On disconnect, we
> usually just orphan the object, we remove it from visibility,
> disconnect the device <-> object relation.
> 
> All of the  N users with a reference can still access the memory, they
> just do not talk to a real device anymore. The invalidated/orphaned
> state is communicated otherwise by locks and flags in the device
> object. Only after all of the N users left the object alone, the
> memory of the orphan if free'd.
> 
> If in the time-window between disconnecting the object from the device
> and freeing the orphaned object's memory, the same device comes back,
> we allocate a new object which is associated with the device. It
> usually has the same name and same properties as the original one.
> 
> This way, the new object is full functional, does not conflict with
> the older one, and also all the users of the old memory are still fine
> and can cleanup a lazy as they need without much synchronization.
> 
> Now, all that might not apply to machinecheck, and it might be that
> machinecheck is fully able to handle all that just fine with the
> statically allocated same memory -- allocating new device memory on
> hotplug is still the model that should always be preferred over any
> other, if possible.
> 
> It's usually the simplest safest and most flexible for anything that
> can come and go at any time, and memory which might be in used by
> other running code.
> 


Thanks for the crystal clear explanations from both you and Alan. Now
I am convinced.. :-) And thanks to Tony for bringing this up!

Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-18 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-16 22:40 [PATCH] mce: fix warning messages about static struct mce_device Greg KH
2012-01-17  0:14 ` Djalal Harouni
2012-01-17  0:15   ` Greg KH
2012-01-17  0:21     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-17  1:00       ` Greg KH
2012-01-17  8:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-17 15:51   ` Greg KH
2012-01-17 16:28     ` Greg KH
2012-01-18  9:31     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-18 14:42       ` Greg KH
2012-01-18 15:51         ` Alan Stern
2012-01-18 17:28           ` Luck, Tony
2012-01-18 17:54             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-01-18 18:10             ` Alan Stern
2012-01-18 18:50               ` Kay Sievers
2012-01-18 19:00                 ` Luck, Tony
2012-01-18 19:31                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2012-01-19 12:32                 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-19 13:29                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-01-19 15:13                     ` Alan Stern
2012-01-19 19:38                       ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-19 20:52                         ` Alan Stern
2012-01-19 12:28         ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-26 23:49           ` MCE: convert static array of pointers to per-cpu variables Greg KH
2012-01-27 13:14             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-01-17 12:36 ` [PATCH] mce: fix warning messages about static struct mce_device Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-01-17 15:52   ` Greg KH

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