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From: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/28] qom: add the base Object class (v2)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:43:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F22C629.3040703@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F22C5CB.70209@codemonkey.ws>

Am 27.01.2012 16:42, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
> On 01/27/2012 09:05 AM, Andreas Färber wrote:
>> Am 25.01.2012 22:37, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
>>> On 01/25/2012 03:30 PM, Andreas Färber wrote:
>>>> Am 24.01.2012 20:32, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
>>>>> This class provides the main building block for QEMU Object Model
>>>>> and is
>>>>> extensively documented in the header file.  It is largely inspired by
>>>>> GObject.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Anthony Liguori<aliguori@us.ibm.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> v1 ->   v2
>>>>>    - remove printf() in type registration
>>>>>    - fix typo in comment (Paolo)
>>>>>    - make Interface private
>>>>>    - move object into a new directory and move header into
>>>>> include/qemu/
>>>>
>>>> Some of us had expressed concerns over introducing include/. Any
>>>> particular reason you're doing it still?
>>>
>>> Because it's a great idea and I thought everyone loved it?
>>>
>>> Can you point me to the concerns raised, I'll go back and look.  I
>>> didn't think it was contentious...
>>
>> Can't find it right now (stupid search keyword!)
> 
> No problem.
> 
>> but I remember having a
>> discussion around whether these are actually "public" APIs because to
>> date we have always claimed that all APIs are internal and no guarantees
>> are made. IMO moving headers to an include/ dir marks a change of that
>> policy because header in include/ usually get installed alongside a
>> library so if we do it we should do it conciously.
>>
>> Thing is, headers that are private to one part of code are public to
>> another. It's not black and white. E.g., hw ->  IDE ->  AHCI ->  ICH9.
>> Whenever there's multiple subclasses code needs to be shared; it
>> shouldn't usually be poked at from the outside though in favor of
>> qdev/QOM properties.
>>
>> Personally, I find it more handy to find pci_dec.c and pci_dec.h in the
>> same directory in Nautilus/gedit/whatever (but bad example because I'm
>> working on making that header go away). On the other hand compared to
>> like r955 we have seen a huge inflation in hw/ files.
>> I can live with it either way, and as Paolo says, it can easily be
>> changed later with git-mv. And #include "qemu/foo.h" sounds fair.
> 
> When I think of include/, I think of "internally public" headers.  IOW,
> things that are meant to be shared in other parts of QEMU.  For
> instance, something like qemu-queue.h.
> 
> In fact, there are 25 header files in $SRCDIR that are in the form
> qemu-$file.h.  They could (and should) probably be moved to
> include/qemu/$file.h

Okay, agree.

Regards,
Andreas

> 
> As we introduce more directory structure, having a single include
> directory will be very handy.  For instance, pci_dec.c may move to
> drivers/ppc/pci_dec.c.  But having pci_dec.h in include/qemu means that
> we don't have to worry about very long #include paths.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Anthony Liguori
> 
>>
>> For these new "public" headers I'd be interested in finding a solution
>> where we can all easily collaborate on the documentation though. Right
>> now we need to trust you to get the markup right.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>>> To summarize my rationale for it:
>>>
>>>   1) It avoids all of the non-sense with conflicting system headers
>>> (because we -Iinclude and the headers live in include/qemu)
>>>
>>>   2) It establishes what are public functions for use in other parts of
>>> qemu vs. private headers (which we currently use based on ad-hoc naming
>>> schemes like block_int.h).
>>>
>>>   3) I think the kernel serves as an existence proof that this method to
>>> manage headers works really well in practice.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Anthony Liguori
>>
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-27 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-24 19:32 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/28] qom: add QEMU Object Model type hierarchy to qdev Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/28] macio: convert " Anthony Liguori
2012-01-26 23:17   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] macio: Convert " Andreas Färber
2012-03-06 22:56     ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-24 19:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/28] openpic: remove dead code to make a PCI device version Anthony Liguori
2012-01-26 23:57   ` Andreas Färber
2012-01-24 19:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/28] pci: call reset unconditionally Anthony Liguori
2012-01-25 12:42   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-25 13:28     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/28] qom: add the base Object class (v2) Anthony Liguori
2012-01-25 21:30   ` Andreas Färber
2012-01-25 21:37     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-26  7:43       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-01-27 15:05       ` Andreas Färber
2012-01-27 15:42         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-27 15:43           ` Andreas Färber [this message]
2012-01-24 19:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/28] qdev: integrate with QEMU Object Model (v2) Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/28] qdev: move qdev->info to class Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/28] qdev: don't access name through info Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/28] qdev: use a wrapper to access reset and promote reset to a class method Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/28] qdev: add a interface to register subclasses Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/28] qdev: add class_init to DeviceInfo Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/28] qdev: prepare source tree for code conversion Anthony Liguori
2012-01-26 17:35   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] es1370: Drop dead code Andreas Färber
2012-01-26 17:35     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] marvell_88w8618_audio: Use DEFINE_PROP_* macros Andreas Färber
2012-01-26 17:35     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] qdev: prepare source tree for code conversion Andreas Färber
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/28] isa: pic: convert to QEMU Object Model Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/28] usb: " Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/28] ccid: " Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/28] ssi: " Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/28] i2c: rename i2c_slave -> I2CSlave Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/28] i2c: smbus: convert to QEMU Object Model Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/28] hda-codec: " Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/28] ide: " Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/28] scsi: " Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/28] spapr: convert to QEMU Object Model (v2) Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/28] virtio-serial: convert to QEMU Object Model Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:59   ` Amit Shah
2012-01-24 20:13     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 23/28] unin_pci: Clean up qdev names Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 24/28] unin_pci: Drop duplicate busdev Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 25/28] unin_pci: Drop unused reset handler Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 26/28] pci: convert to QEMU Object Model Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-25 12:41   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-25 12:41     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-25 13:34     ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-01-25 13:34       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 27/28] sysbus: apic: ioapic: " Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 20:01   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-24 20:21     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 21:01       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-24 21:11         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 21:31           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-24 21:53             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 22:06               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-24 23:03                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-25  8:33                   ` Andreas Färber
2012-01-25 12:09                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-25 13:02                     ` Paul Brook
2012-01-25 14:25                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-25  8:37                   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-25 10:15                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-01-25 10:27                       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-25 11:15                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-01-25 14:00                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-25 14:23                       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-25 14:40                         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-25 15:18                           ` Andreas Färber
2012-01-25 15:34                           ` Eric Blake
2012-01-24 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 28/28] virtio-s390: " Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 23:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/28] qom: add QEMU Object Model type hierarchy to qdev Peter Maydell
2012-01-24 23:16   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-25 18:31 ` Blue Swirl
2012-01-25 19:43   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-25 20:09     ` Blue Swirl
2012-01-27 17:34 ` Anthony Liguori

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