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From: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@openvz.org>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	"hannes@cmpxchg.org" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/15] mm: memory book keeping and lru_lock splitting
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:54:55 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F3D26CF.2040102@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F3CE243.9050203@openvz.org>

Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
> KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:43:52 +0400
>> Konstantin Khlebnikov<khlebnikov@openvz.org>   wrote:
>>
>>> KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 02:57:04 +0400
>>>> Konstantin Khlebnikov<khlebnikov@openvz.org>    wrote:
>>
>>>>> * optimize page to book translations, move it upper in the call stack,
>>>>>      replace some struct zone arguments with struct book pointer.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a page->book transrater from patch 2/15
>>>>
>>>> +struct book *page_book(struct page *page)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	struct mem_cgroup_per_zone *mz;
>>>> +	struct page_cgroup *pc;
>>>> +
>>>> +	if (mem_cgroup_disabled())
>>>> +		return&page_zone(page)->book;
>>>> +
>>>> +	pc = lookup_page_cgroup(page);
>>>> +	if (!PageCgroupUsed(pc))
>>>> +		return&page_zone(page)->book;
>>>> +	/* Ensure pc->mem_cgroup is visible after reading PCG_USED. */
>>>> +	smp_rmb();
>>>> +	mz = mem_cgroup_zoneinfo(pc->mem_cgroup,
>>>> +			page_to_nid(page), page_zonenum(page));
>>>> +	return&mz->book;
>>>> +}
>>>>
>>>> What happens when pc->mem_cgroup is rewritten by move_account() ?
>>>> Where is the guard for lockless access of this ?
>>>
>>> Initially this suppose to be protected with lru_lock, in final patch they are protected with rcu.
>>
>> Hmm, VM_BUG_ON(!PageLRU(page)) ?
>
> Where?
>
>>
>> move_account() overwrites pc->mem_cgroup with isolating page from LRU.
>> but it doesn't take lru_lock.
>
> There three kinds of lock_page_book() users:
> 1) caller want to catch page in LRU, it will lock either old or new book and
>      recheck PageLRU() after locking, if page not it in LRU it don't touch anything.
>      some of these functions has stable reference to page, some of them not.
>    [ There actually exist small race, I knew about it, just forget to pick this chunk from old code. See below. ]
> 2) page is isolated by caller, it want to put it back. book link is stable. no problems.
> 3) page-release functions. page-counter is zero. no references -- no problems.
>
> race for 1)
>
> catcher					switcher
>
> 					# isolate
> 					old_book = lock_page_book(page)
> 					ClearPageLRU(page)
> 					unlock_book(old_book)				
> 					# charge
> old_book = lock_page_book(page)		
> 					# switch
> 					page->book = new_book
> 					# putback
> 					lock_book(new_book)
> 					SetPageLRU(page)
> 					unlock_book(new_book)
> if (PageLRU(page))
> 	oops, page actually in new_book
> unlock_book(old_book)
>
>
> I'll protect "switch" phase with old_book lru-lock:
>
> lock_book(old_book)
> page->book = new_book
> unlock_book(old_book)

I found better solution for switcher sequence:

#isolate
old_book = lock_page_book(page)
ClearPageLRU(page)
unlock_book(old_book)				

#charge

#switch
page->book = new_book
spin_unlock_wait(&old_book->lru_lock)

#putback
lock_book(new_book)
SetPageLRU(page)
unlock_book(new_book)

this spin_unlock_wait() effectively stabilize PageLRU() sign
for potential old_book lock holder.

>
> The other option is recheck in "catcher" page book after PageLRU()
> maybe there exists some other variants.
>
>> BTW, what amount of perfomance benefit ?
>
> It depends, but usually lru_lock is very-very hot.
> This lock splitting can be used without cgroups and containers,
> now huge zones can be easily sliced into arbitrary pieces, for example one book per 256Mb.
>
>
>
> According to my experience, one of complicated thing there is how to postpone "book" destroying
> if some its pages are isolated. For example lumpy reclaim and memory compaction isolates pages
> from several books. And they wants to put them back. Currently this can be broken, if someone removes
> cgroup in wrong moment. There appears funny races with three players: catcher, switcher and destroyer.
> This can be fixed with some extra reference-counting or some other sleepable synchronizing.
> In my rhel6-based implementation I uses extra reference-counting, and it looks ugly. So I want to invent something better.
> Other option is just never release books, reuse them after rcu grace period for rcu-list iterating.

Looks like it is not broken, charged page will keep memcg books alive.
To make it completely safe rcu-free callback must wait on spin_unlock_wait(book->lru_lock).

>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Kame
>>
>
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From: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@openvz.org>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	"hannes@cmpxchg.org" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/15] mm: memory book keeping and lru_lock splitting
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:54:55 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F3D26CF.2040102@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F3CE243.9050203@openvz.org>

Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
> KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:43:52 +0400
>> Konstantin Khlebnikov<khlebnikov@openvz.org>   wrote:
>>
>>> KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 02:57:04 +0400
>>>> Konstantin Khlebnikov<khlebnikov@openvz.org>    wrote:
>>
>>>>> * optimize page to book translations, move it upper in the call stack,
>>>>>      replace some struct zone arguments with struct book pointer.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a page->book transrater from patch 2/15
>>>>
>>>> +struct book *page_book(struct page *page)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	struct mem_cgroup_per_zone *mz;
>>>> +	struct page_cgroup *pc;
>>>> +
>>>> +	if (mem_cgroup_disabled())
>>>> +		return&page_zone(page)->book;
>>>> +
>>>> +	pc = lookup_page_cgroup(page);
>>>> +	if (!PageCgroupUsed(pc))
>>>> +		return&page_zone(page)->book;
>>>> +	/* Ensure pc->mem_cgroup is visible after reading PCG_USED. */
>>>> +	smp_rmb();
>>>> +	mz = mem_cgroup_zoneinfo(pc->mem_cgroup,
>>>> +			page_to_nid(page), page_zonenum(page));
>>>> +	return&mz->book;
>>>> +}
>>>>
>>>> What happens when pc->mem_cgroup is rewritten by move_account() ?
>>>> Where is the guard for lockless access of this ?
>>>
>>> Initially this suppose to be protected with lru_lock, in final patch they are protected with rcu.
>>
>> Hmm, VM_BUG_ON(!PageLRU(page)) ?
>
> Where?
>
>>
>> move_account() overwrites pc->mem_cgroup with isolating page from LRU.
>> but it doesn't take lru_lock.
>
> There three kinds of lock_page_book() users:
> 1) caller want to catch page in LRU, it will lock either old or new book and
>      recheck PageLRU() after locking, if page not it in LRU it don't touch anything.
>      some of these functions has stable reference to page, some of them not.
>    [ There actually exist small race, I knew about it, just forget to pick this chunk from old code. See below. ]
> 2) page is isolated by caller, it want to put it back. book link is stable. no problems.
> 3) page-release functions. page-counter is zero. no references -- no problems.
>
> race for 1)
>
> catcher					switcher
>
> 					# isolate
> 					old_book = lock_page_book(page)
> 					ClearPageLRU(page)
> 					unlock_book(old_book)				
> 					# charge
> old_book = lock_page_book(page)		
> 					# switch
> 					page->book = new_book
> 					# putback
> 					lock_book(new_book)
> 					SetPageLRU(page)
> 					unlock_book(new_book)
> if (PageLRU(page))
> 	oops, page actually in new_book
> unlock_book(old_book)
>
>
> I'll protect "switch" phase with old_book lru-lock:
>
> lock_book(old_book)
> page->book = new_book
> unlock_book(old_book)

I found better solution for switcher sequence:

#isolate
old_book = lock_page_book(page)
ClearPageLRU(page)
unlock_book(old_book)				

#charge

#switch
page->book = new_book
spin_unlock_wait(&old_book->lru_lock)

#putback
lock_book(new_book)
SetPageLRU(page)
unlock_book(new_book)

this spin_unlock_wait() effectively stabilize PageLRU() sign
for potential old_book lock holder.

>
> The other option is recheck in "catcher" page book after PageLRU()
> maybe there exists some other variants.
>
>> BTW, what amount of perfomance benefit ?
>
> It depends, but usually lru_lock is very-very hot.
> This lock splitting can be used without cgroups and containers,
> now huge zones can be easily sliced into arbitrary pieces, for example one book per 256Mb.
>
>
>
> According to my experience, one of complicated thing there is how to postpone "book" destroying
> if some its pages are isolated. For example lumpy reclaim and memory compaction isolates pages
> from several books. And they wants to put them back. Currently this can be broken, if someone removes
> cgroup in wrong moment. There appears funny races with three players: catcher, switcher and destroyer.
> This can be fixed with some extra reference-counting or some other sleepable synchronizing.
> In my rhel6-based implementation I uses extra reference-counting, and it looks ugly. So I want to invent something better.
> Other option is just never release books, reuse them after rcu grace period for rcu-list iterating.

Looks like it is not broken, charged page will keep memcg books alive.
To make it completely safe rcu-free callback must wait on spin_unlock_wait(book->lru_lock).

>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Kame
>>
>
> --
> To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
> the body to majordomo@kvack.org.  For more info on Linux MM,
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-16 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-15 22:57 [PATCH RFC 00/15] mm: memory book keeping and lru_lock splitting Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57 ` [PATCH RFC 01/15] mm: rename struct lruvec into struct book Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57 ` [PATCH RFC 02/15] mm: memory bookkeeping core Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57 ` [PATCH RFC 03/15] mm: add book->pages_count Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57 ` [PATCH RFC 04/15] mm: unify inactive_list_is_low() Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57 ` [PATCH RFC 05/15] mm: add book->reclaim_stat Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57 ` [PATCH RFC 06/15] mm: kill struct mem_cgroup_zone Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57 ` [PATCH RFC 07/15] mm: move page-to-book translation upper Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57 ` [PATCH RFC 08/15] mm: introduce book locking primitives Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57 ` [PATCH RFC 09/15] mm: handle book relocks on lumpy reclaim Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57 ` [PATCH RFC 10/15] mm: handle book relocks in compaction Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57 ` [PATCH RFC 11/15] mm: handle book relock in memory controller Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57 ` [PATCH RFC 12/15] mm: optimize books in update_page_reclaim_stat() Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57 ` [PATCH RFC 13/15] mm: optimize books in pagevec_lru_move_fn() Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57 ` [PATCH RFC 14/15] mm: optimize putback for 0-order reclaim Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:57   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:58 ` [PATCH RFC 15/15] mm: split zone->lru_lock Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-15 22:58   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-16  2:04 ` [PATCH RFC 00/15] mm: memory book keeping and lru_lock splitting KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-16  2:04   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-16  5:43   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-16  5:43     ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-16  8:24     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-16  8:24       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-16 11:02       ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-16 11:02         ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-16 15:54         ` Konstantin Khlebnikov [this message]
2012-02-16 15:54           ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-16 23:54         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-16 23:54           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-18  9:09           ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-18  9:09             ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-16  2:37 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-02-16  2:37   ` Hugh Dickins
2012-02-16  4:51   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-16  4:51     ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-16 21:37     ` Hugh Dickins
2012-02-16 21:37       ` Hugh Dickins
2012-02-17 19:56       ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-17 19:56         ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-18  2:13       ` Hugh Dickins
2012-02-18  2:13         ` Hugh Dickins
2012-02-18  6:35         ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-18  6:35           ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-18  7:14           ` Hugh Dickins
2012-02-18  7:14             ` Hugh Dickins
2012-02-20  0:32             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-20  0:32               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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