From: Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>, SELinux <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: Currently the kernel is interpreting reading the link file on /proc/PID/exe as sys_ptrace for a different UID.
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:54:07 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F44127F.4030605@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1329856575.12501.80.camel@moss-pluto>
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On 02/21/2012 03:36 PM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 08:57 -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>> On 02/13/2012 06:09 PM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Daniel J Walsh
>>> <dwalsh@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> I believe this should be DAC_READ_SEARCH.
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to prevent all SYS_PTRACE from any domain on the
>>>> system but certain apps like dbus, consolekit, policykit,
>>>> systemd-logger and others like to look /proc/PID/exe to
>>>> report the path of the executable they are communicating
>>>> with. This causes lots of sys_ptrace access being required
>>>> for domains, that I do not believe need it.
>>>>
>>>> They need DAC_READ_SEARCH because they are trying to read
>>>> content that is owned by a different UID. The SYS_PTRACE
>>>> stuff was put in to prevent apps from reading process memory
>>>> information stored in /proc.
>>>>
>>>> I think this is a bug in the kernel.
>>>
>>> SELinux just mirrors the Linux capability checks.
>>> CAP_SYS_PTRACE is applied when the normal DAC check on ptrace
>>> fails (i.e. different uid). The SELinux MAC check here is the
>>> :process ptrace check. That is what you should focus on -
>>> SELinux already distinguishes /proc access from ptrace (except
>>> for /proc/pid/mem, which is viewed as equivalent). dontaudit
>>> :capability sys_ptrace where needed, but not :process ptrace.
>>
>> But I have to allow all these domains capability sys_ptrace
>> then, since these domains legitimately want to either use an
>> access check based on the executable of the process or in the
>> case of the systemd_jounal, want to log it.
>>
>> If the CAP check on reading a symbolic link in /proc is
>> SYS_PTRACE, that seems bogus. If it was reading /proc/pid/mem or
>> any of the other /proc/pid fields that tell you about the memory,
>> then I agree those should be SYS_PTRACE. But this is a
>> DAC_READ_SEARCH check in my opinion.
>
> What you are asking for is a change to the Linux DAC logic, not a
> change to SELinux. You can certainly investigate that, but that
> has to be taken up on lkml, not here.
>
As much as I dislike it, I am just adding back in the sys_ptrace
access. Since the ptrace will still be blocked, it is not as big a deal.
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-21 21:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-13 21:49 Currently the kernel is interpreting reading the link file on /proc/PID/exe as sys_ptrace for a different UID Daniel J Walsh
2012-02-13 23:09 ` Stephen Smalley
2012-02-14 13:57 ` Daniel J Walsh
2012-02-21 20:36 ` Stephen Smalley
2012-02-21 21:54 ` Daniel J Walsh [this message]
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