From: Tim Bird <tim.bird-mEdOJwZ7QcZBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
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Cc: Stephen Warren <swarren-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] ARM: Add Kconfig option to use mkimage -T kernel_noload
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:33:58 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F4E6F96.8080907@am.sony.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120229181430.GI3318-RQcB7r2h9QmfDR2tN2SG5Ni2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
On 02/29/2012 10:14 AM, Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD wrote:
> On 08:58 Wed 29 Feb , Stephen Warren wrote:
>> Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD wrote at Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:30 AM:
>>> On 17:03 Tue 28 Feb , Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>> uImage files typically encode a single absolute load and entry address.
>>>> This is inconvenient when attempting to share that uImage across multiple
>>>> SoCs with different physical RAM addresses. Recent versions of mkimage
>>>> implement a "kernel_noload" image type which encodes no absolute load
>>>> address, and a relative entry address. This works well for uImage-wrapped
>>>> ARM zImages, since they are relocatable.
>>>>
>>>> This is enabled by commit b9b50e89d317c58becd0e2d7fac2e21e3a81dd0a
>>>> "image: Implement IH_TYPE_KERNEL_NOLOAD" in U-Boot.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Stephen Warren <swarren-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>>>> ---
>>>> I assume I should put this into the ARM patch tracker if it's OK?
>>>
>>> Again a new option for uImage no why not just boot the zImage
>>>
>>> in this case the uImage is useless
>>
>> U-Boot doesn't support zImage at present.
>>
>> A patch was posted to support it at least for ARM, but needed a little
>> work before it could be committed.
> Sorry I see no advantage to have the uImage build by the kernel anymore as
> we have a relocatable zImage
>
> I'll even drop its support
This seems at least premature, and possibly ill-advised in general.
There are lots of U-Boot images out in the field, many of which that
are rarely updated. A lot of workflow will be disrupted unnecessarily
by a change like this.
Could you wait to drop uImage build support in the kernel until
U-Boot supports zImage, and has worked it's way into the field
for a few years?
-- Tim
=============================
Tim Bird
Architecture Group Chair, CE Workgroup of the Linux Foundation
Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Network Entertainment
=============================
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From: tim.bird@am.sony.com (Tim Bird)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] ARM: Add Kconfig option to use mkimage -T kernel_noload
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:33:58 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F4E6F96.8080907@am.sony.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120229181430.GI3318@game.jcrosoft.org>
On 02/29/2012 10:14 AM, Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD wrote:
> On 08:58 Wed 29 Feb , Stephen Warren wrote:
>> Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD wrote at Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:30 AM:
>>> On 17:03 Tue 28 Feb , Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>> uImage files typically encode a single absolute load and entry address.
>>>> This is inconvenient when attempting to share that uImage across multiple
>>>> SoCs with different physical RAM addresses. Recent versions of mkimage
>>>> implement a "kernel_noload" image type which encodes no absolute load
>>>> address, and a relative entry address. This works well for uImage-wrapped
>>>> ARM zImages, since they are relocatable.
>>>>
>>>> This is enabled by commit b9b50e89d317c58becd0e2d7fac2e21e3a81dd0a
>>>> "image: Implement IH_TYPE_KERNEL_NOLOAD" in U-Boot.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> I assume I should put this into the ARM patch tracker if it's OK?
>>>
>>> Again a new option for uImage no why not just boot the zImage
>>>
>>> in this case the uImage is useless
>>
>> U-Boot doesn't support zImage at present.
>>
>> A patch was posted to support it at least for ARM, but needed a little
>> work before it could be committed.
> Sorry I see no advantage to have the uImage build by the kernel anymore as
> we have a relocatable zImage
>
> I'll even drop its support
This seems at least premature, and possibly ill-advised in general.
There are lots of U-Boot images out in the field, many of which that
are rarely updated. A lot of workflow will be disrupted unnecessarily
by a change like this.
Could you wait to drop uImage build support in the kernel until
U-Boot supports zImage, and has worked it's way into the field
for a few years?
-- Tim
=============================
Tim Bird
Architecture Group Chair, CE Workgroup of the Linux Foundation
Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Network Entertainment
=============================
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-29 18:33 UTC|newest]
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2012-02-29 0:03 [PATCH 1/2] ARM: Add Kconfig option to use mkimage -T kernel_noload Stephen Warren
2012-02-29 0:03 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <1330473804-23348-1-git-send-email-swarren-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-29 0:03 ` [PATCH 2/2] ARM: tegra: Add zreladdr etc to Makefile.boot for Tegra30 Stephen Warren
2012-02-29 0:03 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-01 17:01 ` [PATCH 1/2] ARM: Add Kconfig option to use mkimage -T kernel_noload Stephen Warren
2012-03-01 17:01 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF17BE861683-C7FfzLzN0UxDw2glCA4ptUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-05 4:21 ` Olof Johansson
2012-03-05 4:21 ` Olof Johansson
2012-03-05 20:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-05 20:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-02-29 12:29 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-02-29 12:29 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
[not found] ` <20120229122942.GF3318-RQcB7r2h9QmfDR2tN2SG5Ni2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-29 16:58 ` Stephen Warren
2012-02-29 16:58 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF17BDDF206A-C7FfzLzN0UxDw2glCA4ptUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-29 18:14 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-02-29 18:14 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
[not found] ` <20120229181430.GI3318-RQcB7r2h9QmfDR2tN2SG5Ni2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-29 18:33 ` Tim Bird [this message]
2012-02-29 18:33 ` Tim Bird
2012-02-29 18:50 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-02-29 18:50 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
[not found] ` <20120229185013.GJ3318-RQcB7r2h9QmfDR2tN2SG5Ni2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-12 17:40 ` Marek Vasut
2012-03-12 17:40 ` Marek Vasut
[not found] ` <201203121840.49776.marek.vasut-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-12 17:44 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-03-12 17:44 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
[not found] ` <4F4E6F96.8080907-mEdOJwZ7QcZBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-29 19:12 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2012-02-29 19:12 ` Uwe Kleine-König
[not found] ` <20120229191209.GN14173-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-29 19:17 ` Stephen Warren
2012-02-29 19:17 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF17BDDF2122-C7FfzLzN0UxDw2glCA4ptUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-29 19:44 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2012-02-29 19:44 ` Uwe Kleine-König
[not found] ` <20120229194409.GO14173-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-29 19:59 ` Stephen Warren
2012-02-29 19:59 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF17BDDF2155-C7FfzLzN0UxDw2glCA4ptUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-29 20:12 ` Andre Renaud
2012-02-29 20:12 ` Andre Renaud
[not found] ` <4F4E86A1.8010506-7Wk5F4Od5/oYd5yxfr4S2w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-29 20:16 ` Stephen Warren
2012-02-29 20:16 ` Stephen Warren
2012-02-29 20:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-02-29 20:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20120229201938.GB16999-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-29 20:25 ` Andre Renaud
2012-02-29 20:25 ` Andre Renaud
[not found] ` <4F4E89A8.4080909-7Wk5F4Od5/oYd5yxfr4S2w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-29 20:29 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-02-29 20:29 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-02-29 20:39 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2012-02-29 20:39 ` Uwe Kleine-König
[not found] ` <20120229203958.GQ14173-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-29 20:45 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-02-29 20:45 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20120229204527.GD16999-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-29 20:59 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2012-02-29 20:59 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2012-03-01 4:55 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-03-01 4:55 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
[not found] ` <20120229205901.GR14173-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-12 17:42 ` Marek Vasut
2012-03-12 17:42 ` Marek Vasut
2012-02-29 21:27 ` Stephen Warren
2012-02-29 21:27 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF17BDDF21A1-C7FfzLzN0UxDw2glCA4ptUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-29 22:28 ` Andre Renaud
2012-02-29 22:28 ` Andre Renaud
2012-02-29 20:30 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2012-02-29 20:30 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2012-02-29 23:53 ` Ryan Mallon
2012-02-29 23:53 ` Ryan Mallon
[not found] ` <4F4EBA8C.1040408-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-12 17:44 ` Marek Vasut
2012-03-12 17:44 ` Marek Vasut
2012-03-01 15:34 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-01 15:34 ` Mark Brown
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