From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bosmailout11.eigbox.net (bosmailout11.eigbox.net [66.96.189.11]) by yocto-www.yoctoproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F35EE013A3 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2012 06:36:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from bosmailscan11.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.11]) by bosmailout11.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1S60vx-0003HC-D0 for yocto@yoctoproject.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 09:36:41 -0500 Received: from bosimpout02.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.2]) by bosmailscan11.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1S60vx-0002DO-AS for yocto@yoctoproject.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 09:36:41 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp06.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.6]) by bosimpout02.eigbox.net with NO UCE id jSch1i00507rX7u01Sch3d; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 09:36:41 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OOmQK1mB c=1 sm=1 a=DyN8zkliAUdISGavr0A7eg==:17 a=mn2ndCrYJZwA:10 a=y6CmfMN_vBIA:10 a=Lk7aQFya1KUA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ag1SF4gXAAAA:8 a=07d9gI8wAAAA:8 a=usZp50ADn_Vwv6K8LgMA:9 a=raXqGe6W65oKcVUNIVQA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=fIc3/5IyPUehxkj7BpkQ7Q==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.20.18.6 X-EN-IMPSID: jSch1i00507rX7u01Sch3d Received: from pool-108-25-200-43.atclnj.east.verizon.net ([108.25.200.43] helo=[192.168.1.3]) by bosauthsmtp06.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1S60vw-0006dH-Uq for yocto@yoctoproject.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 09:36:41 -0500 Message-ID: <4F5A1577.1010600@mindchasers.com> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 09:36:39 -0500 From: Bob Cochran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yocto@yoctoproject.org References: <4F59F59F.4040807@enea.com> <4F5A0913.20207@windriver.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5A0913.20207@windriver.com> X-EN-UserInfo: cb6d325fe03740ac93d537d78041f599:2186c883651a1065ea1e15c5a112545a X-EN-AuthUser: bcochran@mindchasers.com Sender: Bob Cochran X-EN-OrigIP: 108.25.200.43 X-EN-OrigHost: pool-108-25-200-43.atclnj.east.verizon.net Subject: Re: yocto and LTSI X-BeenThere: yocto@yoctoproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of all things Yocto List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 14:36:42 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 03/09/2012 08:43 AM, Bruce Ashfield wrote: > On 12-03-09 07:20 AM, David Nyström wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Whats yoctos take on LTSI ? >> >> http://git.linuxfoundation.org/?p=ltsi-kernel.git;a=summary >> http://lwn.net/Articles/484337/ >> >> I've noticed that LTT-ng and other kernel patches are independently >> ported and maintained by the yocto project. >> Are there any plans for yocto to have ltsi-kernel patches as upstream ? > > We'll be syncing up with the ltsi kernel parts over the summer. > But yes, LTSI will be one of the sources used for yocto kernel trees. > > Cheers, > > Bruce > >> I just finished reviewing the slides for LTSI given at ELC: (https://events.linuxfoundation.org/images/stories/pdf/lf_elc12_shibata.pdf). Why does the Linux Foundation need to get behind yet another effort to maintain a kernel repository for embedded? It seems that many of the objectives are the same for the two projects regarding the kernel. Why not just branch a yearly Yocto kernel as long-term stable and add the support methodology outlined in the LTSI slides to this branch? Perhaps this could also be done with the Poky repo? How is a developer supposed to view Yocto and LTSI? The former is cutting edge, developer friendly with all the bells & whistles, and experimental but use the latter for production??? Or maybe use the tools and rootfs from Yocto but the kernel from LTSI? It seems Greg K-H of LTSI should join forces with Yocto and keep things simple & unified for us embedded developers (or Yocto should dump maintaining its own kernel repos and just draw from LTSI). Bob