From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mga02.intel.com (mga02.intel.com [134.134.136.20]) by yocto-www.yoctoproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32ADE013A3 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orsmga001.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.18]) by orsmga101.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 19 Mar 2012 11:03:23 -0700 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,352,1309762800"; d="scan'208";a="119201712" Received: from unknown (HELO envy.home) ([10.7.199.162]) by orsmga001.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 19 Mar 2012 11:03:23 -0700 Message-ID: <4F6774C1.3080704@linux.intel.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:02:41 -0700 From: Darren Hart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120209 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Rifenbark, Scott M" References: <41DEA4B02DBDEF40A0F3B6D0DDB1237945173476@ORSMSX101.amr.corp.intel.com> <4F6767CE.5080802@linux.intel.com> <41DEA4B02DBDEF40A0F3B6D0DDB1237945173A2A@ORSMSX101.amr.corp.intel.com> In-Reply-To: <41DEA4B02DBDEF40A0F3B6D0DDB1237945173A2A@ORSMSX101.amr.corp.intel.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Cc: Yocto discussion list Subject: Re: my idea of a quick start guide X-BeenThere: yocto@yoctoproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of all things Yocto List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:03:25 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 03/19/2012 10:17 AM, Rifenbark, Scott M wrote: > I could replace the Beagleboard xM machine with qemux86. The > introductory bit up front provides minimal inconvenience to the "Minimal inconvenience" is a subjective assessment of course. I find it very annoying to slog through that much material when all I want are the 3 shell commands to get it going, from which I can typically infer a lot. Other have reported similar views. > reader to quickly hop down to the section via the link. I missed this on my first scan, despite checking for it. My fault? Sure. But I'm not likely to be the only one. -- Darren > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- From: Darren Hart > [mailto:dvhart@linux.intel.com] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 11:07 > AM To: Rifenbark, Scott M Cc: Robert P. J. Day; Yocto discussion > list Subject: Re: [yocto] my idea of a quick start guide > > > > On 03/16/2012 04:27 PM, Rifenbark, Scott M wrote: >> Several people have indicated a quick start section like Robert's >> wiki page would be good in the YP QS. I agree that the idea of >> diverting the super user to a shortened, more concise section that >> let's you kick the tires of Yocto is a good idea. I have created a >> section based on Robert's example from his wiki page. You can see >> it at this link: >> >> http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/yocto-project-qs/yocto-project-qs.html#super-user >> >> >> Feedback and comments welcome. > > It's not a bad section to have, but it doesn't feel integrated into > the quickstart, especially the bit about building for Beagleboard xM. > Users looking for a truly quick start will still have to troll > through pages of introductory overview and concepts before they get > to this. I still argue that a new user should be able to build and > boot qemux86 sato using the QS guide without having to scroll down. > > -- Darren > >> >> Scott >> >> -----Original Message----- From: yocto-bounces@yoctoproject.org >> [mailto:yocto-bounces@yoctoproject.org] On Behalf Of Robert P. J. >> Day Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:49 AM To: Yocto >> discussion list Subject: [yocto] my idea of a quick start guide >> >> >> since it's easier to just write something than suggest numerous >> fixes, i took less than an hour and wrote this: >> >> http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Yocto_Project_Quick_Start >> >> it's the sort of thing that would have been perfect for me when i >> first jumped into yocto. >> >> i'm going to add a couple more short sections but, technically, it >> contains everything i would have needed to know to build my first >> image. >> >> thoughts? >> >> rday >> > -- Darren Hart Intel Open Source Technology Center Yocto Project - Linux Kernel