From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>,
eric.piel@tremplin-utc.net, vojcek@tlen.pl, dsdt@gaugusch.at,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
x86@kernel.org, Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
lenb@kernel.org, robert.moore@intel.com,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACPI: Implement overriding of arbitrary ACPI tables via initrd
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 23:18:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F715BCF.8050808@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120327044643.18911.qmail@stuge.se>
On 03/26/2012 09:46 PM, Peter Stuge wrote:
> H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> There are a lot of bootloaders, and one of the most commonly used ones
>> has a very adversarial relationship with the kernel maintainers.
>
> A couple of less commonly used ones, by or near the coreboot project,
> haven't exactly been embraced by kernel maintainers. Dunno if it's
> because coreboot doesn't much like ACPI, and thinks that it would
> be interesting to explore and innovate firmware on x86.
>
> //Peter
I think it is more because coreboot has tried to do things in
nonstandard ways rather than fill in the gaps they have. This is
getting a *lot* better, as far as I can tell, but in a sane world there
shouldn't be any need for "bootloaders by or near the coreboot project"
since any standard x86 bootloader should Just Work[TM].
I like to draw parallels with how we dealt with holes in applications in
the early days of Linux. For example, when Linux wasn't providing the
interfaces that X needed, we didn't add a bunch of Linux-specific code
to X, *we added the standard interfaces to Linux*.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-27 6:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-23 14:29 [PATCH] ACPI: Implement overriding of arbitrary ACPI tables via initrd Thomas Renninger
2012-03-23 14:29 ` Thomas Renninger
2012-03-23 15:51 ` Thomas Renninger
2012-03-23 20:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-24 1:42 ` Thomas Renninger
2012-03-24 2:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-24 3:02 ` Thomas Renninger
2012-03-24 4:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-24 4:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-24 4:50 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-03-24 4:50 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-03-24 4:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-24 9:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-03-24 18:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-25 8:54 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-03-26 1:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-26 14:21 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-03-26 0:45 ` Thomas Renninger
2012-03-26 1:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-26 14:19 ` Thomas Renninger
2012-03-26 14:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-26 14:51 ` Thomas Renninger
2012-03-27 4:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-27 4:46 ` Peter Stuge
2012-03-27 6:18 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2012-03-24 18:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-03-24 19:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-24 19:17 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-03-24 19:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-24 22:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-24 22:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-25 9:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-03-25 23:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-25 4:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-25 9:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-03-23 20:54 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-03-23 20:54 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-03-24 0:15 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-03-24 0:15 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-03-24 1:05 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-03-24 1:22 ` Thomas Renninger
2012-03-24 1:26 ` Thomas Renninger
2012-03-24 4:41 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-03-26 0:45 ` Thomas Renninger
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