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From: Philippe Gerum <rpm@xenomai.org>
To: Doug Brunner <dbrunner@domain.hid>
Cc: xenomai@xenomai.org
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-help] Intermixing native and POSIX skins
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:26:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F71EA1B.4080001@domain.hid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1332778457.241521523@domain.hid>

On 03/26/2012 06:14 PM, Doug Brunner wrote:
> Thanks for the information--the issue is not about picking a free port on the server side, but rather about communicating the information on which ports are "free" to the clients (server has connected its end, but no other client is using the port). The semaphore mechanism isn't that much of a problem, though; I've been able to build a satisfactory implementation.

Mm, still scratching my head to understand the issue. Both the client 
and server side accept -1 as the port spec, telling the kernel to draw a 
free port. I understand the issue is not on the server side, so is it on 
the client side?

Could you sketch the usage pattern?

>
> One other question: although I know in-order delivery isn't necessarily a feature of datagram based protocols, would I get that with an IDDP socket connection between just two processes, and/or an XDDP connection to a /dev/rtpN?

Yes, in-order delivery is guaranteed with all RTIPC protocols. This is 
written in stone.

>
>      Doug Brunner
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Philippe Gerum"<rpm@xenomai.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 11:29am
> To: "Doug Brunner"<dbrunner@domain.hid>
> Cc: xenomai@xenomai.org
> Subject: Re: [Xenomai-help] Intermixing native and POSIX skins
>
> On 03/15/2012 05:30 PM, Doug Brunner wrote:
>> Thanks Philippe. I hadn't even known about the existence of the RTIPC driver, and I definitely like the idea.
>>
>> I've been experimenting with it a bit today, and found that it seems to be allowed for more than two sockets to connect to the same port. I modified iddp-sendrecv.c to have two client processes, both of which now connect to the same port as the server, then did the same thing with iddp-label.c (two clients both connect()ing to the same label).
>>
>> This would cause havoc with the communications that go on between my processes--they need a one-to-one channel. I could implement semaphores to enforce this, but it would be nice to avoid that complication. Is there a way to make it happen using just the socket interface?
>
> The RTIPC protocols are fundamentally datagram-based, so allowing N:1
> data paths is wanted. If the issue is about picking a different port
> each time you bind a server socket in the AF_RTIPC domain, then I would
> suggest to set sipc_port to -1 when binding the server-side socket: a
> free port will be picked automatically. You could then use getsockname()
> to retrieve the actual port #, and pass it to the clients.
>


-- 
Philippe.


  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-27 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-12 19:12 [Xenomai-help] Intermixing native and POSIX skins Doug Brunner
2012-03-12 19:43 ` Philippe Gerum
2012-03-15 16:30   ` Doug Brunner
2012-03-16 18:29     ` Philippe Gerum
2012-03-26 16:14       ` Doug Brunner
2012-03-27 16:26         ` Philippe Gerum [this message]
2012-03-27 21:35           ` Doug Brunner
2012-04-02 15:50             ` Philippe Gerum
2012-03-28  5:39 ` [Xenomai-core] [PATCH] Mask signals in rt_print:printer_loop() Paul Janzen
2012-03-28 13:35   ` Gilles Chanteperdrix

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