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From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, therbert@google.com,
	ncardwell@google.com, maze@google.com, ycheng@google.com,
	ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2 net-next] tcp: sk_add_backlog() is too agressive for TCP
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:51:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F95CECF.6030901@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1335216631.5205.71.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

On 04/23/2012 02:30 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 13:57 -0700, Rick Jones wrote:
>> Probably better to call that something other than 16K buffers - the send
>> size was probably 16K, which reflected SO_SNDBUF at the time the data
>> socket was created, but clearly SO_SNDBUF grew in that timeframe.
>>
>
>
> Maybe I was not clear : Application does sendmsg() of 16KB buffers.

I'd probably call that a 16K send test.  The root of the issue being 
there being "send buffers" and "send socket buffers" (and their receive 
versions).

My "canonical" test - at least one that appears in most of my 
contemporary scripts uses a 64K send size for the bulk transfer tests. 
I switch back-and-forth between tests which allow the socket buffer size 
to be determined automagically, and those where I set both sides' socket 
buffers to 1M via the test-specific -s and -S options.  In "netperf 
speak" those would probably be "x64K" and "1Mx64k" respectively.  More 
generally "<socket buffer size>x<send size>" (I rarely set/specify the 
receive size in those tests, leaving it at whatever SO_RCVBUF is at the 
start.

> Yet, in the small time it takes to perform this operation, softirq can
> queue up to 300 packets coming from the other side.

There is more to it than just queue-up 16 KB right?

rick

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-23 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-23  9:38 [PATCH 2/2 net-next] tcp: sk_add_backlog() is too agressive for TCP Eric Dumazet
2012-04-23 17:14 ` Rick Jones
2012-04-23 17:23   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-23 20:01     ` David Miller
2012-04-23 20:37       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-23 20:57         ` Rick Jones
2012-04-23 21:30           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-23 21:51             ` Rick Jones [this message]
2012-04-23 21:56               ` Rick Jones
2012-04-23 22:05               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-23 22:16                 ` Rick Jones
2012-04-24 15:25                   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-04-23 21:01         ` David Miller
2012-04-23 21:38           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-24  2:20         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-24  2:27           ` David Miller
2012-04-24  8:01           ` Ilpo Järvinen
2012-04-24  8:10             ` David Miller
2012-04-24  8:21               ` Ilpo Järvinen
2012-04-24  8:25                 ` David Miller
2012-04-24  8:40                   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2012-04-24  8:48                     ` David Miller
2012-04-24 10:32                       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2012-04-24  8:56                     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-26  8:10                       ` [RFC] allow skb->head to point/alias to first skb frag Eric Dumazet
2012-04-26  8:36                         ` David Miller
2012-04-26  9:10                           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-26  9:18                             ` David Miller
2012-04-26  9:22                               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-26 10:09                                 ` Maciej Żenczykowski
2012-04-26 12:32                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-26 13:50                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-26 20:12                                       ` David Miller
2012-04-26 20:18                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-24  8:49             ` [PATCH 2/2 net-next] tcp: sk_add_backlog() is too agressive for TCP Eric Dumazet
2012-04-24  8:44         ` David Laight
2012-04-24  8:53           ` Eric Dumazet

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