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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Bernd Schubert <bernd.schubert@itwm.fraunhofer.de>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@whamcloud.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Fan Yong <yong.fan@whamcloud.com>,
	bfields@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5 2/4] Return 32/64-bit dir name hash according to usage type
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:21:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F96FD45.9080902@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F96D08B.2020606@itwm.fraunhofer.de>

On 4/24/12 11:10 AM, Bernd Schubert wrote:
> On 04/24/2012 12:42 AM, Andreas Dilger wrote:
>> On 2012-04-23, at 5:23 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote:
>>> I'm curious about the above as well as:
>>>
>>>         case SEEK_END:
>>>                 if (unlikely(offset>  0))
>>>                         goto out_err; /* not supported for directories */
>>>
>>> The previous .llseek handler, and the generic handler for other
>>> filesystems, allow seeking past the end of the dir AFAICT. (not
>>> sure why you'd want to, but I don't see that you'd get an error
>>> back).
>>>
>>> Is there a reason to uniquely exclude it in ext4?  Does that line up with POSIX?
>>
>> I don't know what the origin of this was... I don't think there is
>> a real reason for it except that it doesn't make any sense to do
>> so.
>>
> 
> I think I added that. According to pubs.opengroup.org:
> (http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/seekdir.html)
> 
> void seekdir(DIR *dirp, long loc);
> 
> <quote>
> 
> If the value of loc was not obtained from an earlier call to
> telldir(), or if a call to rewinddir() occurred between the call to
> telldir() and the call to seekdir(), the results of subsequent calls
> to readdir() are unspecified.
> 
> </quote>
> 
> 
> As telldir(), which should correlate to 'case SEEK_CUR' will not
> provide invalid values, the behaviour is undefined.
> 
> 
> Also,
> 
> 
> case SEEK_END:
> [...]
>                 if (dx_dir)
>                         offset += ext4_get_htree_eof(file);
>                 else
>                         offset += inode->i_size;
> [...]
> 
> 
>         if (!dx_dir) {
>                 if (offset > inode->i_sb->s_maxbytes)
>                         goto out_err;
>         } else if (offset > ext4_get_htree_eof(file))
>                 goto out_err;
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hence, the additional:
> 
>          case SEEK_END:
>                  if (unlikely(offset>  0))
>                       goto out_err; /* not supported for directories */
> 
>     
> is just a shortcut to avoid useless calculations.
> 
> Unless I missed something, it only remains the question if could
> break existing applications relying on undefined behaviour. However,
> I have no idea how an application might trigger that?

(other lists removed at this point, this is ext4-specific)

I know I'm being a little pedantic w/ the late review here....

It seems like the only differences between ext4_dir_llseek and the old ext4_llseek are these:

1) For SEEK_END, we now return -EINVAL for a positive offset (i.e. past EOF)
2) For SEEK_END, we seek to ext4_get_htree_eof() not to inode->i_size
3) For SEEK_SET, we impose different limits for max offset
  - s_maxbytes / ext4_get_htree_eof for !dx/dx, vs. s_bitmap_maxbytes/s_maxbytes

Do any of these changes relate to the hash collision problem?  Are any of them uniquely
required for ext4, enough to warrant cut & paste of the vfs llseek code (again?)

What I'm getting at is: what are the reasons that we cannot use generic_file_llseek_size(),
maybe with a new argument to specify a non-standard location for SEEK_END.  Such
a change would require a solid explanation, but it'd probably go in if it meant
one less seek implementation to worry about.

-Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-24 19:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-09 13:21 [PATCH 0/4] [RESEND] 32/64 bit llseek hashes (v5) Bernd Schubert
2012-01-09 13:21 ` [PATCH 5 1/4] Add new FMODE flags: FMODE_32bithash and FMODE_64bithash Bernd Schubert
2012-01-09 13:21 ` [PATCH 5 2/4] Return 32/64-bit dir name hash according to usage type Bernd Schubert
2012-03-05 15:59   ` Ted Ts'o
     [not found]     ` <20120305155939.GE21356-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-06  0:40       ` Bernd Schubert
2012-03-06  0:40         ` Bernd Schubert
2012-03-06  2:28         ` Ted Ts'o
     [not found]           ` <20120306022838.GA24323-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-06  9:59             ` Bernd Schubert
2012-03-06  9:59               ` Bernd Schubert
     [not found]               ` <4F55E01B.3060105-mPn0NPGs4xGatNDF+KUbs4QuADTiUCJX@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-06 15:15                 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-06 15:15                   ` Ted Ts'o
     [not found]                   ` <20120306151543.GA32282-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-07  9:01                     ` Bernd Schubert
2012-03-07  9:01                       ` Bernd Schubert
     [not found]   ` <20120109132148.2616029.68798.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-20 20:04     ` Eric Sandeen
2012-04-20 20:04       ` Eric Sandeen
     [not found]       ` <4F91C15B.6070200-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-22 12:51         ` Bernd Schubert
2012-04-22 12:51           ` Bernd Schubert
2012-04-23 20:37           ` Eric Sandeen
     [not found]             ` <4F95BD72.6090200-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 20:52               ` Bernd Schubert
2012-04-23 20:52                 ` Bernd Schubert
2012-04-23 21:22                 ` Eric Sandeen
     [not found]                 ` <4F95C109.1030401-mPn0NPGs4xGatNDF+KUbs4QuADTiUCJX@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 22:23                   ` Eric Sandeen
2012-04-23 22:23                     ` Eric Sandeen
2012-04-23 22:42                     ` Andreas Dilger
     [not found]                       ` <A754D23B-B946-4E80-ACEA-0E2C2E6FAA2E-KloliPT79xf2eFz/2MeuCQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 16:10                         ` Bernd Schubert
2012-04-24 16:10                           ` Bernd Schubert
2012-04-24 19:21                           ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2012-04-24 21:07                             ` Bernd Schubert
2012-04-24 22:24                               ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-25 15:05                                 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-04-25 15:12                                   ` Bernd Schubert
2012-04-25 15:36                                     ` Eric Sandeen
2012-04-24 21:28                             ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-24 21:26                               ` Eric Sandeen
2012-01-09 13:21 ` [PATCH 5 3/4] nfsd_open(): rename 'int access' to 'int may_flags' in nfsd_open() Bernd Schubert
2012-01-09 13:21 ` [PATCH 5 4/4] nfsd: vfs_llseek() with 32 or 64 bit offsets (hashes) Bernd Schubert
     [not found]   ` <20120109132158.2616029.30467.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
     [not found]     ` <20120109132153.2616029.26302.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-06  0:08       ` [PATCH 5 3/4] nfsd_open(): rename 'int access' to 'int may_flags' in nfsd_open() Ted Ts'o
2012-03-06  0:08         ` Ted Ts'o
     [not found]         ` <20120306000837.GA17164-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-06  2:08           ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-06  2:08             ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-06 15:18             ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-06 15:28               ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-09 20:51                 ` Ted Ts'o
     [not found]                   ` <20120309205148.GB5635-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-12 15:09                     ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-12 15:09                       ` Ted Ts'o
     [not found]                       ` <20120312150912.GB12440-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-12 15:49                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-12 15:49                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-12 22:22                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-13 20:01                             ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                               ` <20120313200117.GA21991-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-13 20:03                                 ` Bernd Schubert
2012-03-13 20:03                                   ` Bernd Schubert
     [not found]                                   ` <4F5FA827.8020606-mPn0NPGs4xGatNDF+KUbs4QuADTiUCJX@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-13 20:34                                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-13 20:34                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-13 21:09                                       ` Bernd Schubert
2012-03-13 21:29                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                           ` <20120313212947.GK31995-spRCxval1Z7TsXDwO4sDpg@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-14 14:32                                             ` Bernd Schubert
2012-03-14 14:32                                               ` Bernd Schubert
     [not found]                                               ` <4F60AC0D.9020204-mPn0NPGs4xGatNDF+KUbs4QuADTiUCJX@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-14 16:05                                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-14 16:05                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                   ` <20120314160529.GB31194-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-16 21:22                                                     ` Bernd Schubert
2012-03-16 21:22                                                       ` Bernd Schubert
2012-03-19  2:54                                                       ` Ted Ts'o
     [not found]                                                         ` <20120319025455.GD31682-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-19 20:00                                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-19 20:00                                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                             ` <20120319200041.GA25161-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20  0:10                                                               ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-20  0:10                                                                 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-04-12 20:49                                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-12 20:49                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                   ` <20120412204948.GE6667-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-12 21:22                                                     ` Bernd Schubert
2012-04-12 21:22                                                       ` Bernd Schubert
     [not found]                                                       ` <4F8747A1.8060800-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-12 21:25                                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-12 21:25                                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                       ` <20120313203446.GB21991-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-13 21:10                                         ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-13 21:10                                           ` Ted Ts'o
     [not found]                                           ` <20120313211009.GA11969-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-13 21:27                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-13 21:27                                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-01-10 11:27 ` [PATCH 0/4] [RESEND] 32/64 bit llseek hashes (v5) Andreas Dilger
2012-01-11 14:48   ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]     ` <20120111144827.GA32381-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-11 15:31       ` Ted Ts'o
2012-01-11 15:31         ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-05 12:23         ` Bernd Schubert

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