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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Memory API: handling unassigned physical memory
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 17:09:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F9FEE83.70306@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F9FEA24.3070603@codemonkey.ws>

On 05/01/2012 04:50 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 05/01/2012 08:01 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> On 05/01/2012 03:49 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> On 1 May 2012 13:48, Avi Kivity<avi@redhat.com>  wrote:
>>>> On 05/01/2012 03:43 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>>>> On 1 May 2012 13:42, Avi Kivity<avi@redhat.com>  wrote:
>>>>>> sysbus should just die.
>>>>>
>>>>> Totally agreed. It's not going to go quietly though...
>>>>
>>>> Not if you keep suggesting workarounds when I tell unsuspecting
>>>> developers to qomify their devices.
>>>
>>> When QOM supports (1) exporting gpio signals and
>
> This is trivial.  It'll come in as soon as 1.2 opens up.  If folks
> want to start working on a branch with it:
>
> https://github.com/aliguori/qemu/tree/qom-pin.4
>
>>> (2) exporting memory regions, then it will be providing the
>>> main things that sysbus provides.
>
> This is a little tricky.  Here's the problems I've encountered so far:
>
> a) A lot of devices need the equivalent of it_shift.  it_shift affects
> how addresses are decoded and the size of the memory region.  it_shift
> usually needs to be a device property.
>
> Since we need to know the size of the memory region to initialize it,
> we need to know the value of it_shift before we can initialize it
> which means we have to delay the initialization of the mmemory region
> until realize.
>
> I think a nice fix would be to make it_shift as memory region mutator
> and allow it to be set after initialization.

Indeed I wanted to make it_shift as part of the memory core.  But a
mutator?  It doesn't change in real hardware, so this looks artificial. 
So far all mutators really change at runtime.

What is the problem with delaying region initialization until realize?

>
> b) There's some duplication in MemoryRegions with respect to QOM. 
> Memory regions want to have a name but with QOM they'll be addressable
> via a path.  I go back and forth about how aggressively we want to
> refactor MemoryRegions.

These days region names are purely for debugging.  The ABI bit was moved
to a separate function.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-01 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4F9D797E.500@ilande.co.uk>
     [not found] ` <4F9D97F3.8080608@codemonkey.ws>
     [not found]   ` <4F9E5028.7010306@redhat.com>
     [not found]     ` <4F9E82C7.10706@ilande.co.uk>
     [not found]       ` <4F9E9268.70408@redhat.com>
     [not found]         ` <CAFEAcA_sKtzmHpFcdhkANLCY0=FuW0Hbof0ifp3uHM66NkWoOQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <4F9E9906.8060401@ilande.co.uk>
2012-05-01  6:57             ` [Qemu-devel] Memory API: handling unassigned physical memory Blue Swirl
2012-05-01 13:53               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 18:48               ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2012-05-02 15:15                 ` Bob Breuer
2012-05-06  8:45                   ` Blue Swirl
2012-05-06  8:41                 ` Blue Swirl
     [not found]             ` <CAFEAcA9VeJWPQ-LU=DvX6vp+=g44-uWda7zokK2NKfLiSkgGAg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <4F9EA2AD.9050208@ilande.co.uk>
2012-05-01  7:10                 ` Blue Swirl
2012-05-01 18:50                   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2012-05-01 21:21                     ` Andreas Färber
     [not found]           ` <4F9E9569.5000700@redhat.com>
     [not found]             ` <CAFEAcA_wFfsq=PwHAc_r-2bgdwUpSHaTOaL2VPVCJSs9x_JT6A@mail.gmail.com>
2012-05-01 12:39               ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 12:41                 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 12:42                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 12:43                     ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 12:48                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 12:49                         ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 13:01                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 13:50                             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 14:00                               ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 14:06                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 14:20                                   ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 15:09                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 15:20                                       ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 15:26                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 15:37                                           ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 17:21                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 18:57                                         ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2012-05-01 19:03                                           ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 14:09                               ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-05-01 14:15                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 14:26                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 15:13                                     ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]             ` <4F9E96EC.5080005@codemonkey.ws>
2012-05-01 12:41               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]         ` <4F9E964A.1010408@ilande.co.uk>
2012-05-01 12:46           ` Avi Kivity

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