From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: liwp@linux.vnet.ibm.com, peter maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, afaerber@suse.de
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/21] qdev: move bus properties to abstract superclasses
Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 23:50:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FA1AC32.8020301@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FA19277.2030209@us.ibm.com>
Il 02/05/2012 22:00, Anthony Liguori ha scritto:
>>
>> Not really, in fact this kind of class-side data is really bread and
>> butter
>> of all dynamic languages, and it's how most of them implement
>> polymorphism.
>> They have an associative array (method names -> method bytecode for
>> example)
>> in each class on the hierarchy, and walk the hierarchy for each
>> function call.
>
> I'm not aware of any language that does this.
Python:
class A:
def a(self):
return "a"
class B(A):
def b(self):
return "b"
B.__dict__
# {'__module__': '__main__', 'b': <function b at 0x7f9308aab668>, '__doc__': None}
print(B().b())
# b
B.__dict__["a"]
# Traceback (most recent call last):
# File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
# KeyError: 'a'
print(B().a())
# a
Smalltalk:
'abc' class
# String
String methodDictionary includesKey: #==
# false
Object methodDictionary includesKey: #=
# true
Ruby too:
class A
def a() end
end
class B < A
def b() end
end
B.instance_methods
# [:b, :a, :nil?, :===, :=~, ...]
B.instance_methods(include_super=false)
# [:b]
but I don't know exactly how to access the dictionary here.
> Many languages today have an associative array in the object. It's
> filled out from a class definition during instantiation. This is what
> allows monkey patching.
That's just Javascript as far as I know. Python has an associative array
in the object _and_ one in the class, and they aren't exactly the same
thing:
class A:
def a(self):
return "a"
A.__dict__
{'a': <function a at 0x7f67c8dc1578>, '__module__': '__main__', '__doc__': None}
x = A()
x.__dict__
# {}
x.a()
# 'a'
x.__dict__["a"] = lambda self: self
x.__dict__
# {'a': <function <lambda> at 0x7f67c8dc1500>}
x.a()
# Traceback (most recent call last):
# File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
# TypeError: <lambda>() takes exactly 1 argument (0 given)
x.a('look, no implicit self anymore!')
'look, no implicit self anymore!'
y = A()
y.a()
# 'a'
Ruby has an associative array in the object and one in the class, and they
work as expected:
class A
def a() end
end
x = A.new
# <A:0x000000027e0db8>
x.a
# nil
x.define_singleton_method("a") { puts "i'm special" }
x.a
# i'm special
# nil
x.singleton_methods
# [:a]
y = A.new
y.a
# nil
y.singleton_methods
# []
> Classes are first class objects and can contain members, but I don't
> know of any system where you actively look at the same field in a
> super class for each class in the hierarchy. That's really trippy.
Just because it's new to you. Smalltalk has been doing that for 30-odd
years.
Of course the VM has a lot of caching going on, but it's entirely
internal.
> If we move properties to Object, I'd rather just stick a property
> pointer in TypeInfo and call it a day. I'm not thrilled about it, but
> I feel a lot better about it the above.
What if we add declarative links or children, for example? Adding more
junk to TypeInfo is not the solution.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-02 21:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-02 11:30 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/21] qbus QOM conversion, rebased on top of my patches Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 11:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/21] qom: documentation addition Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 11:59 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-11 2:08 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-02 11:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/21] qom: add object_class_get_parent Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 12:21 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-11 2:25 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-02 11:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/21] qom: add class_base_init Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-14 21:34 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-02 11:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/21] qom: make Object a type Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-16 8:16 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-23 16:53 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-02 11:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/21] qom: assert that public types have a non-NULL parent field Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 12:35 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-23 17:01 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-02 11:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/21] qdev: push "type" property up to Object Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-23 17:06 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-23 17:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-23 17:40 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-23 18:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 11:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/21] qdev: fix -device foo,? Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-11 14:03 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-14 20:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-02 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/21] qdev: use object_property_print in info qtree Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-11 14:20 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-11 14:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-12 0:23 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-02 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/21] qdev: move bus properties to a separate global Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-23 23:39 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-02 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/21] qdev: do not propagate properties to subclasses Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-23 23:46 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-24 1:34 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-02 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/21] qdev: move bus properties to abstract superclasses Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 12:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-02 13:21 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 20:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-02 21:50 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-05-03 12:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-03 12:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/21] pc: add back PCI.rombar compat property Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 11:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-02 11:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 11:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-02 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/21] qdev: clean up global properties Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-24 16:27 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-02 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/21] qdev: remove qdev_prop_set_defaults Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 12:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-24 16:30 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-02 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/21] qdev: fix adding of ptr properties Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-12 12:34 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-02 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/21] qdev: use wrapper for qdev_get_path Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-24 16:31 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-02 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/21] qdev: move sysbus initialization to sysbus.c Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-24 16:32 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-02 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/21] qdev: convert busses to QEMU Object Model Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-24 16:48 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-02 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/21] qdev: connect busses with their parent devices Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-24 16:49 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-02 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/21] qbus: make child devices links Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-24 16:51 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-02 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/21] qbus: initialize in standard way Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-24 16:52 ` Andreas Färber
2012-05-04 16:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/21] qbus QOM conversion, rebased on top of my patches Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-23 15:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
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