From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [HACK] hda: expose microphone instead of line-in
Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 16:15:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FA2930A.1020804@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FA28D06.1070202@siemens.com>
Hi,
>>> The point is that both pt as well as emulation suffer from the same
>>> issue: lacking real-time support of QEMU. So I guess Windows uses a
>>> different buffer size for the real hardware than for our HDA model.
>>
>> For pt hardware, the BARs just get directly mapped into guest memory space, so BAR accesses don't go through QEMU anymore. I guess you're also using the in-kernel PIC, at which point you're not using QEMU anymore for the HDA. The vcpus should keep running even when you move windows in VNC, right?
>>
>> So it could just as well be that Windows is not using a different buffer size, but you're simply exiting into QEMU a lot less, getting better latencies.
>
> That appears like a simple explanation, but I'm basically getting the
> same exit rate with emulation as with pt (>2000 userspace exits/s). At
> this rate, every significant userspace delay should be audible as it
> also delays vcpu execution.
No. Whatever the qemu iothread is doing does *not* disturb the vcpu(s),
as long as they don't need the qemu mutex. And with pt windows can play
sound without needing the qemu mutex, whereas with emulation it is needed.
> The IRQ rate with pt is around 100 HZ. When does the hardware trigger an
> IRQ? Likely before the end of the buffer. At half of its size?
Yes, half buffer. one page buffersize -> 20ms sound data total -> irq &
refill every 10ms -> 100 irqs/s needed. Windows uses the same buffer
size in passthrough case.
cheers,
Gerd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-03 14:15 UTC|newest]
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2012-05-02 18:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [HACK] hda: expose microphone instead of line-in Jan Kiszka
2012-05-02 22:42 ` Alexander Graf
2012-05-03 12:29 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-05-03 12:39 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-05-03 12:42 ` Alexander Graf
2012-05-03 13:49 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-05-03 14:15 ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2012-05-03 14:30 ` Jan Kiszka
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