From: Andreas Hartmann <andihartmann@01019freenet.de>
To: Jouni Malinen <j@w1.fi>
Cc: Helmut Schaa <helmut.schaa@googlemail.com>,
hostap@lists.shmoo.com,
"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
"users@rt2x00.serialmonkey.com" <users@rt2x00.serialmonkey.com>
Subject: Re: [rt2x00-users] [rt2800pci (AP) - ath9k] 802.11w: broken aggregation handling?
Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 20:16:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FA96306.1070107@01019freenet.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120508073446.GA2887@w1.fi>
Jouni Malinen wrote:
> On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 08:28:33AM +0200, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>>> The main requirements:
>>> - support CCMP encryption/decryption of unicast robust management frames
>>> (subset of Action frames, Deauthentication, Disassociation)
>>
>> I tested WPA-EAP-SHA256 with group key ccmp.
>
> The key point here is to test whether at least one of those management
> frames gets encrypted and decrypted correctly. Deauthentication frames
> may be easiest for that purpose and you can request the station to
> disconnect to test AP's capability of receiving the frame and then use
> hostapd_cli deauthenticate <addr> command on the AP to request the
> station to be disconnected.
Deauth works fine as long as both ralink devices (AP and STA) use
nowhwcrypt (or both are using hwcrypt - but this does not work with
ath9k STA e.g.).
If one of both runs hwencryption, it doesn't work any more - exactly the
same as with BA session requests.
>> The IGTK is a single key (shared key). There are a maximum of 4 shared
>> keys designated in rt2x00mac.c for each BSS for use with hw encryption.
>
> BIP uses key indexes 4 and 5 (i.e., the 5th and 6th index).. Anyway,
> this would most likely be handled in software so the main point here is
> to prevent hardware from doing anything additional to the frames.
>
>> Since rt2800usb is working fine with nohwcrypt=1 (but not with
>> encryption done in hw), I assume, that there is no differentiation
>> between the encryption / decryption of different frame types. If hw
>> encryption is turned on, all types of frames are encrypted / decrypted
>> by hardware and vice versa.
>
> BIP is kind of special since it doesn't actually even set the Protected
> field in the frame header which may make this easier.. The frames are
> not actually encrypted, i.e., BIP protects only authenticity of the
> frames.
Thanks for this explanation!
>> I'm not sure how BIP is secured if hw encryption is enabled. BIP is
>> implemented in mac80211 as part of decryption. Is BIP done during hw
>> encryption, too? Or is it done by mac80211 w/ enabled hw encryption, too?
>
> With most drivers, yes, I would expect mac80211 to handle both TX and RX
> side. The driver should just return -EOPNOTSUPP in the set_key() handler
> for WLAN_CIPHER_SUITE_AES_CMAC to leave BIP for mac80211 and CCMP for
> hwardware.
So, this is lower priority for me at the moment :-).
>> This means for rt2x00: to get 11w working with hw encryption enabled,
>> there needs to be some differentiation for the encryption of management
>> frames: if management frame, let mac80211 do the job - all other frames
>> should be encrypted by hw.
>> Correct?
>
> Well, if you are saying that the issues shows up with unicast robust
> management frames, too, and not just BIP (group addressed robust
> management frames),
Yes. My primary problem at the moment is the handling of the unicast
robust management frames.
> then you are in problems..
yes - that's why I am here :-)
> With good luck, you could
> be able to make the hardware not mess up with unicast robust management
> frames and handle them in mac80211. This may be easier for TX,
How do I exactly recognize this situation? The unicast robust management
frames aren't decrypted with WLAN_CIPHER_SUITE_AES_CMAC. Could they be
given back to mac80211 because of the fact they are management frames?
> but RX
> can be a bit complex.
This seems to be my problem here, too. Sending the deauth from AP
(nohwcrypt=1) can't be handled by STA with hwcrypt enabled.
> It may go to the point of having to use the
> driver to workaround the mess that hardware did (i.e., re-encrypted the
> frame in incorrect way to get back to the correctly encrypted form and
> then sent that to mac80211).. All this depends on the exact behavior of
> the hardware with a frame that was designed after the hardware was, so
> good luck figuring that out ;-).
Thank you!
Regards,
Andreas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-08 18:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-07 5:11 [rt2800pci (AP) - ath9k] 802.11w: broken aggregation handling? Andreas Hartmann
2012-05-07 7:02 ` [rt2x00-users] " Andreas Hartmann
2012-05-07 10:17 ` Andreas Hartmann
2012-05-07 11:04 ` Helmut Schaa
2012-05-07 13:55 ` Jouni Malinen
2012-05-08 6:28 ` Andreas Hartmann
2012-05-08 6:34 ` Johannes Berg
2012-05-08 7:22 ` Andreas Hartmann
2012-05-08 7:37 ` Johannes Berg
2012-05-08 7:34 ` Jouni Malinen
2012-05-08 18:16 ` Andreas Hartmann [this message]
2012-05-07 13:59 ` Jouni Malinen
2012-05-07 14:16 ` Andreas Hartmann
2012-05-07 15:18 ` Jouni Malinen
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