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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Ori Mamluk <omamluk@zerto.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Block job commands in QEMU 1.2 [v2, including support for replication]
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:48:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FBF4775.5020505@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FBE6861.2040503@redhat.com>

Il 24/05/2012 18:57, Eric Blake ha scritto:
> On 05/24/2012 07:41 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> changes from v1:
>> - added per-job iostatus
>> - added description of persistent dirty bitmap
>>
>> The same content is also at
>> http://wiki.qemu.org/Features/LiveBlockMigration/1.2
>>
> 
>> * query-block-jobs: BlockJobInfo gets two new fields, paused and
>> io-status.  The job-specific iostatus is completely separate from the
>> block device iostatus.
> 
> Is it still true that for mirror jobs, whether we are mirroring is still
> determined by whether 'len'=='offset'?

Yes.

>> * block-job-complete: force completion of mirroring and switching of the
>> device to the target, not related to the rest of the proposal.
>> Synchronously opens backing files if needed, asynchronously completes
>> the job.
> 
> Can this be made part of a 'transaction'?  Likewise, can
> 'block-job-cancel' be made part of a 'transaction'?

Both of them are asynchronous so they would not create an atomic
snapshot.  We could add it later, in the meanwhile you can wrap with
fsfreeze/fsthaw.

> But now that you are adding the possibility of mirroring reverting
> to copying, there is a race where I can probe and see that we are
> in mirroring, then issue a 'block-job-cancel' to affect a copy operation,
> but in the meantime things reverted, and the cancel ends up leaving me
> with an incomplete copy.

Hmm, that's right.  But then this can only happen if you have an error
in the target.  I can make block-job-cancel _not_ resume a paused job.
Would that satisfy your needs?

>> Persistent dirty bitmap
>> =======================
>>
>> A persistent dirty bitmap can be used by management for two reasons.
>> When mirroring is used for continuous replication of storage, to record
>> I/O operations that happened while the replication server is not
>> connected or unavailable.  When mirroring is used for storage migration,
>> to check after a management crash whether the VM must be restarted with
>> the source or the destination.
> 
> Is there a particular file format for the dirty bitmap?  Is there a
> header, or is it just straight bitmap, where the size of the file is an
> exact function of size of the file that it maps?

I think it could be just a straight bitmap.

>> management can restart the virtual
>> machine with /mnt/dest/diskname.img.  If it has even a single zero bit,
> 
> s/zero/non-zero/

Doh, of course.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-25  8:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-18 17:08 [Qemu-devel] Proposal for extensions of block job commands in QEMU 1.2 Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21  9:29 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-05-21 10:02   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 10:32     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-05-21 11:02       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 13:07         ` Kevin Wolf
2012-05-21 15:18           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 13:13         ` Eric Blake
2012-05-21 12:20 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-21 13:59 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-21 14:09   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-05-21 14:16     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 14:17     ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-21 14:10   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 14:16     ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-21 14:19       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 14:26         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 14:40           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 14:47             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 15:44               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 15:55                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 14:17     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-05-21 14:39   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-24 13:41 ` [Qemu-devel] Block job commands in QEMU 1.2 [v2, including support for replication] Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-24 14:00   ` Ori Mamluk
2012-05-24 14:19     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-24 15:32       ` Dor Laor
2012-05-25  8:59         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-24 16:57   ` Eric Blake
2012-05-25  8:48     ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-05-25 15:02       ` Eric Blake
2012-05-25  8:28   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-25  8:42     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-05-25  9:43   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-25 11:17     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-25 12:09       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-25 13:25         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-25 16:57   ` Luiz Capitulino

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