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From: Wido den Hollander <wido@widodh.nl>
To: Alexandre DERUMIER <aderumier@odiso.com>
Cc: ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: "rbd rm image" slow with big images ?
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 20:15:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FC7B528.30609@widodh.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b4c574f6-49bf-4d36-b8f2-526bcccb4c71@mailpro>

Hi,

On 05/31/2012 09:12 AM, Alexandre DERUMIER wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I trying to delete some rbd images with rbd rm,
> and it seem to be "slow" with big images.
>
>
>
> I'm testing it with just create a new image (1TB):
>
> # time rbd -p pool1 create --size 1000000 image2
>
> real    0m0.031s
> user    0m0.015s
> sys     0m0.010s
>
>
> then just delete it, without having writed nothing in image
>
>
> # time rbd -p pool1 rm image2
> Removing image: 100% complete...done.
>
> real    1m45.558s
> user    0m14.683s
> sys     0m17.363s
>
>
>
> same test with 100GB
>
> # time rbd -p pool1 create --size 100000 image2
>
> real    0m0.032s
> user    0m0.016s
> sys     0m0.007s
>
> # time rbd -p pool1 rm image2
> Removing image: 100% complete...done.
>
> real    0m10.499s
> user    0m1.488s
> sys     0m1.720s
>
>
> I'm using journal in tmpfs, 3 servers, 15 osds with 1disk 15K (xfs)
> network bandwith,diskio,cpu are low.
>
> Is it the normal behaviour ? Maybe some xfs tuning could help ?

It's in the nature of RBD.

A RBD image consists of multiple 4MB (default) RADOS objects.

Let's say you have a disk of 40GB, that will contain 10.000 4MB RADOS 
objects, you can find those objects by doing: rados -p rbd ls

Now, when you create a new image only the header is writting, but no 
object is written.

When you start writing to a RBD image you will be writing to one of the 
4MB objects. When it doesn't exist it will be created.

So when you install your VM it will create objects, but not all of them.

RBD knows which RADOS objects to access by three parameters:

* Image name
* Image size
* Stripe size (4MB)

So when your VM access for byte Y until Z on the disk, RBD knows which 
object to access by calculating this.

Now, when you start removing the image there is no way of knowing which 
object exists and which doesn't, so RBD will try to remove all objects.

In the case of a fresh image this results in 10.000 RADOS remove 
operations for non-existent objects and that is slow.

Wido

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-31 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <6bb4f478-37c9-460d-8a0d-698e32dcf08d@mailpro>
2012-05-31  7:12 ` "rbd rm image" slow with big images ? Alexandre DERUMIER
2012-05-31 18:15   ` Wido den Hollander [this message]
2012-05-31 18:16     ` Stefan Priebe
2012-05-31 19:39       ` Wido den Hollander
2012-05-31 18:19     ` Sage Weil
2012-06-01  4:38       ` Alexandre DERUMIER
2012-06-01 13:51       ` Guido Winkelmann
2012-06-01 20:33         ` Wido den Hollander

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