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From: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	Robert Love <rlove@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Andrea Righi <andrea@betterlinux.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Taras Glek <tgek@mozilla.com>, Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] [RFC] tmpfs: Add FALLOC_FL_MARK_VOLATILE/UNMARK_VOLATILE handlers
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:03:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FC92E30.4000906@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FC9235F.5000402@gmail.com>

On 06/01/2012 01:17 PM, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> (6/1/12 2:29 PM), John Stultz wrote:
>> This patch enables FALLOC_FL_MARK_VOLATILE/UNMARK_VOLATILE
>> functionality for tmpfs making use of the volatile range
>> management code.
>>
>> Conceptually, FALLOC_FL_MARK_VOLATILE is like a delayed
>> FALLOC_FL_PUNCH_HOLE.  This allows applications that have
>> data caches that can be re-created to tell the kernel that
>> some memory contains data that is useful in the future, but
>> can be recreated if needed, so if the kernel needs, it can
>> zap the memory without having to swap it out.
>>
>> In use, applications use FALLOC_FL_MARK_VOLATILE to mark
>> page ranges as volatile when they are not in use. Then later
>> if they wants to reuse the data, they use
>> FALLOC_FL_UNMARK_VOLATILE, which will return an error if the
>> data has been purged.
>>
>> This is very much influenced by the Android Ashmem interface by
>> Robert Love so credits to him and the Android developers.
>> In many cases the code&  logic come directly from the ashmem patch.
>> The intent of this patch is to allow for ashmem-like behavior, but
>> embeds the idea a little deeper into the VM code.
>>
>> This is a reworked version of the fadvise volatile idea submitted
>> earlier to the list. Thanks to Dave Chinner for suggesting to
>> rework the idea in this fashion. Also thanks to Dmitry Adamushko
>> for continued review and bug reporting, and Dave Hansen for
>> help with the original design and mentoring me in the VM code.
> I like this patch concept. This is cleaner than userland 
> notification quirk. But I don't like you use shrinker. Because of,
> after applying this patch, normal page reclaim path can still make
> swap out. this is undesirable.
Any recommendations for alternative approaches? What should I be hooking
into in order to get notified that tmpfs should drop volatile pages?


>> +static
>> +int shmem_volatile_shrink(struct shrinker *ignored, struct shrink_control *sc)
>> +{
>> +	s64 nr_to_scan = sc->nr_to_scan;
>> +	const gfp_t gfp_mask = sc->gfp_mask;
>> +	struct address_space *mapping;
>> +	loff_t start, end;
>> +	int ret;
>> +	s64 page_count;
>> +
>> +	if (nr_to_scan&&  !(gfp_mask&  __GFP_FS))
>> +		return -1;
>> +
>> +	volatile_range_lock(&shmem_volatile_head);
>> +	page_count = volatile_range_lru_size(&shmem_volatile_head);
>> +	if (!nr_to_scan)
>> +		goto out;
>> +
>> +	do {
>> +		ret = volatile_ranges_get_last_used(&shmem_volatile_head,
>> +							&mapping,&start,&end);
> Why drop last used region? Not recently used region is better?
>
Sorry, that function name isn't very good. It does return the
least-recently-used range, or more specifically: the
least-recently-marked-volatile-range.

I'll improve that function name, but if I misunderstood you and you have
a different suggestion for the purging order, let me know.

thanks
-john



  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-01 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-01 18:29 [PATCH 0/3] [RFC] Fallocate Volatile Ranges v2 John Stultz
2012-06-01 18:29 ` [PATCH 1/3] [RFC] Interval tree implementation John Stultz
2012-06-01 18:29 ` [PATCH 2/3] [RFC] Add volatile range management code John Stultz
2012-06-01 18:29 ` [PATCH 3/3] [RFC] tmpfs: Add FALLOC_FL_MARK_VOLATILE/UNMARK_VOLATILE handlers John Stultz
2012-06-01 20:17   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-01 21:03     ` John Stultz [this message]
2012-06-01 21:37       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-01 21:44         ` John Stultz
2012-06-01 22:34           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-01 23:25             ` John Stultz
2012-06-06 19:52               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-06 23:56                 ` John Stultz
2012-06-07 10:55                   ` Dmitry Adamushko
2012-06-07 23:41                     ` Dave Hansen
2012-06-08  3:03                       ` John Stultz
2012-06-08  4:50                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-09  3:45                           ` John Stultz
2012-06-10  6:35                             ` Dmitry Adamushko
2012-06-10 21:47                             ` Rik van Riel
2012-06-11 18:35                               ` John Stultz
2012-06-12  1:21                                 ` John Stultz
2012-06-12  7:16                             ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-12  7:16                               ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-12 16:03                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-12 16:03                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-12 19:35                               ` John Stultz
2012-06-12 19:35                                 ` John Stultz
2012-06-13  0:10                                 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-13  0:10                                   ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-13  1:21                                   ` John Stultz
2012-06-13  1:21                                     ` John Stultz
2012-06-13  4:42                                     ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-13  4:42                                       ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-08  6:39                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-06-01 23:38 [PATCH 0/3] [RFC] Fallocate Volatile Ranges v3 John Stultz
2012-06-01 23:38 ` [PATCH 3/3] [RFC] tmpfs: Add FALLOC_FL_MARK_VOLATILE/UNMARK_VOLATILE handlers John Stultz

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