From: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>, Tom Parkin <tparkin@katalix.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, David.Laight@ACULAB.COM,
James Chapman <jchapman@katalix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] l2tp: use per-cpu variables for u64_stats updates
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:58:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FEB73EF.9090702@candelatech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120627135034.7db7d0eb@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net>
On 06/27/2012 01:50 PM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 22:39:01 +0200
> Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> All sane SNMP applications are ready to cope with 32bits counters
>> wrapping.
>
> Actually that statement depends on the data rate. SNMP daemons work
> by polling at periodic intervals. The limit for detecting roll over depends
> on the rate and the interval. I believe the ubiquitous net-snmp code uses
> something a 30 second polling interval for lots of it's caches. This means
> it rolls over too fast at 10G. Polling faster can help but net-snmp is
> a pig about updates.
>
> I just realized the whole x32 (running 32 bit apps on 64 bit kernel) is broken
> for things like /proc/net/dev where 64 bit kernel will give 64 bit values and
> the 32 bit app (like net-snmp) is expecting unsigned long (32 bits).
It's worse than that: Even on 64-bit kernels, counters that are returned by
netlink and /proc/net/dev as 64-bit may still wrap themselves at 32-bit
intervals.
I found that I just have to be very paranoid, and assume that if a '64-bit'
number wraps its high 32-bits between polls then it is really just a 32-bit
number and do that wrap properly (and poll more often).
Thanks,
Ben
--
Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-27 20:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-27 12:00 [PATCH v2] l2tp: use per-cpu variables for u64_stats updates Tom Parkin
2012-06-27 19:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 20:21 ` Rick Jones
2012-06-27 20:39 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 20:50 ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-06-27 20:58 ` Ben Greear [this message]
2012-06-27 21:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 21:31 ` Ben Greear
2012-06-27 21:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 23:01 ` Rick Jones
2012-06-27 23:09 ` David Miller
2012-06-27 23:39 ` Rick Jones
2012-06-28 5:00 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-28 8:24 ` Tom Parkin
2012-06-28 8:46 ` David Laight
2012-06-28 18:17 ` Ben Hutchings
2012-06-27 21:32 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 21:40 ` Ben Greear
2012-06-27 21:50 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 21:00 ` Rick Jones
2012-06-27 22:21 ` David Miller
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