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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
	Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>,
	"Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad@darnok.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>Paul Mundt <le>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/20] mm: Optimize fullmm TLB flushing
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:00:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FEC7F97.5010209@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1340883048.28750.25.camel@twins>

On 06/28/2012 02:30 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-06-28 at 13:19 +0200, Martin Schwidefsky wrote:
> 
>> The cpu can create speculative TLB entries, but only if it runs in the
>> mode that uses the respective mm. We have two mm's active at the same
>> time, the kernel mm (init_mm) and the user mm. While the cpu runs only
>> in kernel mode it is not allowed to create TLBs for the user mm.
>> While running in user mode it is allowed to speculatively create TLBs.
> 
> OK, that's neat.

Note that we can do that for x86 now using the new PCID feature.
Basically you get a tagged TLB, so you can switch between the
kernel-only address space and the kernel+user address space quickly.

It's still going to be slower than what we do now, but it might please
some security people if the kernel can't accidentally access user data.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
	Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>,
	"Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad@darnok.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>, Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
	Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	Kyle McMartin <kyle@mcmartin.ca>,
	James Bottomley <jejb@parisc-linux.org>,
	Chris Zankel <chris@zankel.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/20] mm: Optimize fullmm TLB flushing
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:00:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FEC7F97.5010209@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1340883048.28750.25.camel@twins>

On 06/28/2012 02:30 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-06-28 at 13:19 +0200, Martin Schwidefsky wrote:
> 
>> The cpu can create speculative TLB entries, but only if it runs in the
>> mode that uses the respective mm. We have two mm's active at the same
>> time, the kernel mm (init_mm) and the user mm. While the cpu runs only
>> in kernel mode it is not allowed to create TLBs for the user mm.
>> While running in user mode it is allowed to speculatively create TLBs.
> 
> OK, that's neat.

Note that we can do that for x86 now using the new PCID feature.
Basically you get a tagged TLB, so you can switch between the
kernel-only address space and the kernel+user address space quickly.

It's still going to be slower than what we do now, but it might please
some security people if the kernel can't accidentally access user data.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-28 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-27 21:15 [PATCH 00/20] Unify TLB gather implementations -v3 Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 01/20] mm, x86: Add HAVE_RCU_TABLE_FREE support Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 02/20] mm: Add optional TLB flush to generic RCU page-table freeing Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 22:23   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-27 22:23     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-27 23:01     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 23:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 23:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 23:42       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-27 23:42         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-27 23:42         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-28  7:09       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-28  7:09         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-28  7:09         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-28 11:05         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 11:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 11:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 12:00           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-28 12:00             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-28 12:00             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-24  5:12       ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-07-24  5:12         ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-07-24  5:12         ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 03/20] mm, tlb: Remove a few #ifdefs Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 04/20] mm, s390: use generic RCU page-table freeing code Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 05/20] mm, powerpc: Dont use tlb_flush for external tlb flushes Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 06/20] mm, sparc64: " Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 07/20] mm, arch: Remove tlb_flush() Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 08/20] mm: Optimize fullmm TLB flushing Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 22:26   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-27 22:26     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-27 23:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 23:02       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 23:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 23:13         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 23:13         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 23:23         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-27 23:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-27 23:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-27 23:33           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-27 23:33             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-27 23:33             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-28  9:16             ` Catalin Marinas
2012-06-28  9:16               ` Catalin Marinas
2012-06-28 10:39               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-28 10:39                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-28 10:59                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 10:59                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 14:53                   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-06-28 14:53                     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-06-28 16:20                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 16:20                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 16:38                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 16:38                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 16:45                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-28 16:45                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-28 16:52                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 16:52                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 21:57                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-28 21:57                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-28 21:58                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-28 21:58                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-29  8:49                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-29  8:49                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-29 15:26                             ` Catalin Marinas
2012-06-29 15:26                               ` Catalin Marinas
2012-06-29 22:11                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-29 22:11                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-28 10:55             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 10:55               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 10:55               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 11:19               ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-06-28 11:19                 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-06-28 11:19                 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-06-28 11:30                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 11:30                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 11:30                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 16:00                   ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-06-28 16:00                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 09/20] mm, arch: Add end argument to p??_free_tlb() Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 10/20] mm: Provide generic range tracking and flushing Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 11/20] mm, s390: Convert to use generic mmu_gather Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 22:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 22:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28  7:13     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-06-28  7:13       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 12/20] mm, arm: Convert arm to generic tlb Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 13/20] mm, ia64: Convert ia64 " Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 14/20] mm, sh: Convert sh " Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 18:32   ` Paul Mundt
2012-06-28 18:32     ` Paul Mundt
2012-06-28 20:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 20:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 15/20] mm, um: Convert um " Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 16/20] mm, avr32: Convert avr32 " Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 17/20] mm, mips: Convert mips " Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 18/20] mm, parisc: Convert parisc " Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15 ` [PATCH 19/20] mm, sparc32: Convert sparc32 " Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:16 ` [PATCH 20/20] mm, xtensa: Convert xtensa " Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-27 21:16   ` Peter Zijlstra

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