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From: Li Yu <raise.sail@gmail.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>,
	Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	davidel@xmailserver.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Introduce to batch variants of accept() and epoll_ctl() syscall
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:38:22 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FF6B20E.7000402@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1339750318.7491.70.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

于 2012年06月15日 16:51, Eric Dumazet 写道:
> On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 13:37 +0800, Li Yu wrote:
>
>> Of course, I think that implementing them should not be a hard work :)
>>
>> Em. I really do not know whether it is necessary to introduce to a new
>> syscall here. An alternative solution to add new socket option to handle
>> such batch requirement, so applications also can detect if kernel has
>> this extended ability with a easy getsockopt() call.
>>
>> Any way, I am going to try to write a prototype first.
>
> Before that, could you post the result of "perf top", or "perf
> record ...;perf report"
>

Sorry for I just have time to write a benchmark to reproduce this
problem on my test bed, below are results of "perf record -g -C 0".
kernel is 3.4.0:

Events: 7K cycles
+  54.87%  swapper  [kernel.kallsyms]  [k] poll_idle
-   3.10%   :22984  [kernel.kallsyms]  [k] _raw_spin_lock
    - _raw_spin_lock
       - 64.62% sch_direct_xmit
            dev_queue_xmit
            ip_finish_output
            ip_output
          - ip_local_out
             + 49.48% ip_queue_xmit
             + 37.48% ip_build_and_send_pkt
             + 13.04% ip_send_skb

I can not reproduce complete same high CPU usage on my testing 
environment, but top show that it has similar ratio of sys% and
si% on one CPU:

Tasks: 125 total,   2 running, 123 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu0  :  1.0%us, 30.7%sy,  0.0%ni, 18.8%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi, 49.5%si, 
0.0%st

Well, it seem that I must acknowledge I was wrong here. however,
I recall that I indeed ever encountered this in another benchmarking a
small packets performance.

I guess, this is since TX softirq and syscall context contend same lock
in sch_direct_xmit(), is this right?

thanks

Yu

>>   The top shows the kernel is most cpu hog, the testing is simple,
>> just a accept() -> epoll_ctl(ADD) loop, the ratio of cpu util sys% to
>> si% is about 2:5.
>
> This ratio is not meaningful, if we dont know where time is spent.
>
>
> I doubt epoll_ctl(ADD) is a problem here...
>
> If it is, batching the fds wont speed the thing anyway...
>
> I believe accept() is the problem here, because it contends with the
> softirq processing the tcp session handshake.
>
>
>
>



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-07-06  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-15  4:13 [RFC] Introduce to batch variants of accept() and epoll_ctl() syscall Li Yu
2012-06-15  4:29 ` Changli Gao
2012-06-15  5:37   ` Li Yu
2012-06-15  8:51     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-18 23:27       ` Andi Kleen
2012-07-06  9:38       ` Li Yu [this message]
2012-07-09  3:36         ` Li Yu
2012-06-15  8:35 ` David Laight

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